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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2014, 12:33:38 AM »
as an interesting halachik aside, in preparation for this trip, i've learned (from my rav) that i don't need a minyan to make a siyum and avoid the erev pesach fast. i booked early monday flights, which would mean no siyum in shul, but the daf will be finishing sukka on rosh chodesh so private siyum on the plane with last minute chometz. (in the end i switched the flights to sunday.) just thought i'd share that tidbit in case its applicable to others. (i think there should be a forum for erev pesach siyumim on flights and in airports.)

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2014, 12:35:38 AM »
as an interesting halachik aside, in preparation for this trip, i've learned (from my rav) that i don't need a minyan to make a siyum and avoid the erev pesach fast. i booked early monday flights, which would mean no siyum in shul, but the daf will be finishing sukka on rosh chodesh so private siyum on the plane with last minute chometz. (in the end i switched the flights to sunday.) just thought i'd share that tidbit in case its applicable to others. (i think there should be a forum for erev pesach siyumim on flights and in airports.)

What's the hava aminah that you would need a minyan for a siyum?

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2014, 12:36:18 AM »
SW points wont get you any dream vacation.. I thought you talk about UR... MR..

true. never said dream just vacation. the theme is just that i find myself unexpectedly flying somewhere because its no big deal anymore. not complaining though.

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2014, 12:39:28 AM »
What's the hava aminah that you would need a minyan for a siyum?

obviously not the siyum part. i thought perhaps a minyan might be necessary for a חלות סעודת מצוה. perhaps, a bad hava aminah, and among my friends we assumed it would be fine, but i felt uncomfortable before clearing it with a rav. indeed his response was of course. sorry, if i wasted your time.

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2014, 12:40:08 AM »
true. never said dream just vacation. the theme is just that i find myself unexpectedly flying somewhere because its no big deal anymore. not complaining though.
So basically you don't have much  patience sitting a Seider with your lovely MIL. I understand that.

Nothing much about the waste of points....
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2014, 12:41:19 AM »
obviously not the siyum part. i thought perhaps a minyan might be necessary for a חלות . perhaps, a bad hava aminah, and among my friends we assumed it would be fine, but i felt uncomfortable before clearing it with a rav. indeed his response was of course. sorry, if i wasted your time.
If you make a Siyum you don't necesery have to wash for a  סעודת מצוה.
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2014, 12:42:31 AM »
So basically you don't have much  patience sitting a Seider with your lovely MIL. I understand that.

Nothing much about the waste of points....

true. but before dan, i wouldn't have to.

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2014, 12:44:23 AM »
true. but before dan, i wouldn't have to.
So email Dan with your complaint.. And he will have to post in his inbox thread...
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2014, 12:45:00 AM »
If you make a Siyum you don't necesery have to wash for a  סעודת מצוה.

but the idea on erev pesach is to eat from a סעודת מצוה. all those i've ever been to had minyanim so i was hesitant to make one without it.

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2014, 12:46:36 AM »
but the idea on erev pesach is to eat from a סעודת מצוה. all those i've ever been to had minyanim so i was hesitant to make one without it.
Thats when you're not the one making the Siyum. Though im not a Rav.
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2014, 12:48:28 AM »
Thats when you're not the one making the Siyum. Though im not a Rav.

that is a debate among the poskim. Nor am i.

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2014, 02:24:06 AM »
ill take your miles off your hands to guarantee this wont happen again....

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2014, 08:41:53 AM »
Main issue is Pesach with the in laws. And, to spend my hard earned miles on top of it!
Just wondering if others have found themselves traveling where they don't want to go because ticket prices are no longer an excuse.
Even with all my miles, i am still being dragged in a car from NY-Toronto.
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2014, 08:47:36 AM »
Even with all my miles, i am still being dragged in a car from NY-Toronto.
+1 for Montreal

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2014, 08:59:38 AM »
+1 for Montreal
to be a little more fair, it is Niagara on the Lake which makes the travel time similar. Though i would rather spend 7 hours traveling to airport and flying, than sit in a car.
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2014, 09:03:35 AM »
to be a little more fair, it is Niagara on the Lake which makes the travel time similar. Though i would rather spend 7 hours traveling to airport and flying, than sit in a car.
Once you have 2 kids it's already better to sit in the car for those 6-7 hours.

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2014, 09:06:52 AM »
Once you have 2 kids it's already better to sit in the car for those 6-7 hours.
Only at one... Though i am "making" us leave HKG 14 hours early so we I can get to fly on the A380.
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2014, 09:07:07 AM »
I don't understand the dilemma.
Webby don't you just tell your wife you'd rather spend the miles for something better abd that it's more exciting for you to found the pesach with say your parents (her MIL...).

If you have an issue telling her that, I'd wonder how she knew you have miles in first place.
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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2014, 09:13:07 AM »
I don't understand the dilemma.
Webby don't you just tell your wife you'd rather spend the miles for something better abd that it's more exciting for you to found the pesach with say your parents (her MIL...).

If you have an issue telling her that, I'd wonder how she knew you have miles in first place.
Not all of us have this approach to our marriages... :P

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Re: Stuck flying somewhere because you have lots of miles
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2014, 09:42:36 AM »
Only at one... Though i am "making" us leave HKG 14 hours early so we I can get to fly on the A380.
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