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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Maui and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Maui Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

Here it is for FREE.

There is also an app version available for both iOS and Android for $7.99. The app has all the content of the book, plus navigation, offline maps, and links when applicable. You don't really need both, but some people find it useful to have the book while planning (much easier to use) and the app while on the island (for the maps and navigation).

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep Shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping Shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.

Note that you may run into this issue even if you leave the islands Thursday afternoon, as it may already be considered Shabbos. Ask your LOR.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Kahului, and is designated OGG. The are two other small airports - Kapalua (JHM) in the West Maui Mountains and Hana (HNM) in the east.
You could fly directly from the mainland to OGG from (bold is seasonal only):

ANC (AS)
BLI (AS, Allegiant Air)
DEN (UA)
DFW (AA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
ORD (UA)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
SAN (AS, HA)
SEA (AS, HA)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
SMF (AS)
YEG (WestJet)
YVR (AC, WestJet)
YYC (AC, WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to OGG from there.

Hawaiian and Go fly interisland from HNL, KOA, and LIH, Go, and Island Air flies from HNL. Mokulele flies from HNL and KOA, as well as to Kapalua (JHM), Hana (HNM), Molokai (MKK), Lanai (LNY), and Waimea-Kohala (MUE) on the Big Island.

Alternatively, you can also use 5k AA, 6k UA or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. You can use 15k DL pesos for a RT interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.
HA has several tiers, similar to DL, the lowest tier is the only one that's available using partner miles, but with HA miles you can purchase tickets that are otherwise unavailable for additional miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Maui. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

Getting to the Car Rentals is easy and a fun experience (for some). It starts with a 1 or 2 stop Tram ride in a green tram. It takes all of 3 minutes - and the walk with one suitcase would likely take the same 3 minutes - but - it's a very cute welcome to Maui.

Hertz has Gold Choice at the airport. According to National's website there is no Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but according to reports there is one, albeit sparse to the point of uselessness. Also check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try. Costco Travel very often has great prices too.

Make sure to check your reservations often, as prices tend to drop a few weeks before pickup. If it does, make a new reservation and only then cancel your original one.

There's nothing like a convertible on Maui (especially on the Road to Hana). A 4WD is not really necessary, however some people feel more comfortable in one on the 'other side' of the Road to Hana and the hairy parts of Kahekill Hwy (east of the blowhole).

Air Maui will mail you a nice free paper map of the island - click here to request it. It usually takes a week or two to arrive.


Where to stay:

The two most popular area to stay are on the West side (Lahaina, Ka'anapali, Kapalua) and the South side (Wailea, Kihei), due to the better weather there. The South side could sometimes get windy in the winter, though. There are also many places to rent Upcountry (Kula, Pukalani), where the air is cooler and the views smashing (but farther from the beach).



Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Hyatt RegencyWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteHyatt Category 5. The Hyatt advertises having Kosher food. In the past, these meals came from Oahu Kosher (Chabad in Honolulu). However, in Dec 2016 they claimed the meals were prepared by the Chabad of Maui, while in actuality they were prepared by a reform temple (story explained at the bottom of this post), which is still true as of Feb 2017.
AndazSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHyatt category 8. A favorite among DDFers, although award space isn't easy to come by.
Grand WaileaSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHilton - 80k-95k depending on season. Reminiscent of the GHK in Kauai with sprawling grounds and more pools than you count, located on the beautiful Wailea Beach.
SheratonWest side (Lahaina)WebsiteSPG category 6.
WestinWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteSPG category 6.
FairmontSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteAll suite hotel.
Destination By Hyatt Residence - Polo ClubSouth side (Wailea) WebsiteCondos with full kitchen, Ocean front views. The Polo Club has the closest beach access of any property in Wailea - it's no longer legal to build so close to the shore. The beach is known for good snorkeling. Unlike all the other beaches, access from land is completely restricted to Polo club guests. While technically it is a public beach, access is only available from the sea... so it's a de facto private beach perpetually empty and exclusive.


"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
HomeAway Maui
VRBO Maui
Airbnb Maui




What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Maui, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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Black Sand BeachWaiʻānapanapa State ParkOne of the highlights of any Maui trip is black sand beach in Waiʻānapanapa State Park. A bonus feature there is snorkeling at the black sand beach. The waters are exceptionally clear, allowing you to observe a vibrant array of marine life, we saw lobsters, coral, schools of tropical fish, and even an eel. The waters just behind where the waves begin to break are around 10ft deep and super calm. It's important to note that a reservation is required to access this beach, so planning ahead is crucial. https://gostateparks.hawaii.gov/waianapanapa
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Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Maui. Check the Maui Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread. Additionally check out AllTrails - this app/website is great for seeing local and recent reviews of hikes, including conditions, closures, and tips for how to see the best spots, how to avoid dangerous spots, and all round to get information that will help you decide your hiking plan it's free, and has a paid option that adds some extra features:

NameAreaComments
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Sliding SandsHaleakalaAn amazing hike into the crater from the upper visitors center. Quite challenging due to the constant downhill on a loose cinder trail. Amazing views unlike anything on the island, and no shade. The entire trail takes all day, but most people take it only partway in. Go as far as you like and remember that the way back is a constant uphill and will take twice as long. Bring lots of water.
Pipiwai TrailHanaOne of the nicest trail on Maui. A bit past Hana, just before the Seven Sacred Pools. The hike goes through the jungle, past banyan trees and a 200-foot waterfall, and through a bamboo forest (this is the highlight for most people). The trail ends at the amazing 400-foot Waimoku Falls. Give this hike a couple of hours.
Lava FieldSouth MauiAt the end of the road, past the Ahihi-Kinau Natural Area Reserve. This is an amazing and relatively difficult hike. You will be walking on sharp, loose lava rocks the entire time, but the views are smashing and the terrain interesting. Great views of a particularly wild stretch of ocean, interesting pools (not swimmable), and ends in a glorious (and generally empty) beach if you brave it till the end. Do the loop - hug the coast on the way out, and take the Kings Highway back. See Maui Revealed for all the details.
Makamakaole Stream: 13 CrossingsNorth East MauiThe name undersells this gorgeous hike by a lot. This hike has close to 20 or more crossings (each way). The crossings are pretty well orchestrated such that a teen or adult can cross dry, with no issues at all. toddlers will need a helping hand (my 3yr old did this entire hike with just some hand holding) and 7-8yr olds will likely manage the entire hike with no help at all. Crossing the beautiful lightly gushing stream is refreshing and mesmerizing. The hike includes a incredible bamboo forest, and has 2 waterfalls. To the left is the main one - which is easy to get to. You are rewarded with the ability to dip into the cool water and it's deep enough to get completely immersed (5-6ft at the deepest point it seemed) and stand under the waterfall for some great pictures and memories. The hike has a lot of rocks, and is a "technical" hike - but not hard at all. Highly recommended as one of the best hikes in Maui. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/hawaii/maui/makamakaole-stream-13-crossings


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursA few companies offer this; Blue Hawaiian is generally considered to be the best. There are different routes to choose from - keep in mind that the ones going to Haleakala don't actually go into the crater. This is not as recommended on Maui as it is on other islands, since the entire island is pretty much easily accessible so you won't go anywhere remote or extremely amazing.
Road to HanaAbsolute must-do. Don't get scared off by misinformation and go all the way around - in a way the backside is even more spectacular that the more popular first half. You do NOT need a special car or 4WD; any regular car could do it happily. Best way to do the road is to spend the night in Hana, as that will leave the most time to explore the thousand different things along the road. If you're only going for the day, make sure to be on the road EARLY (7-7:30 the latest).
Haleakala SunriseA spectacular event that is not to be missed. You will wake up at the witching hour, it will be freezing cold, and it will be absolutely worth it. Be there at least 45 minutes before the listed sunrise - the earlier the better; they close the upper parking lot when it fills up and you'll have to park at the lower visitor center lot. Dress warmly and bring lots of jackets and blankets. Take the trail to Pakaoao (White Hill) and you'll have the sunrise to yourself (mostly, at least). Tip: for younger kids it may be more worthwhile to go for sunset and avoid disturbing their sleeping schedule.
'Ohe'o Gulch (Seven Sacred Pools)Also known as the Seven Sacred Pools, this is in the Hana side of Haleakala National Park. Save your receipt from sunrise; it's valid for three days and will get you in to the pools too. Short hike from the parking lot to the pools, and it's absolutely stunning. Will be absolutely PACKED from around 1PM and on (but still worth it). If you're staying in Hana go early in the morning and it'll be mostly empty.
Snorkling Molokini craterCountless boat companies will take you out to Molokini. It has the best underwater visibility in the state, sometimes over 100 feet. Somewhat overrated and over-touristed, but generally considered to be worth it.
Whale watchingThe waters surrounding Maui are the stage for some of the best whale watching in the world. Each winter (December through May), thousands of koholā (humpback whales) travel to Hawaiʻi from colder waters to breed, calve and nurse their young. If you are going during this season, grab a pair of binoculars or book a trip to go whale watching. It will blow your mind. Whales jumping 20-30ft into the air falling back in the water with a powerful splash. National geographic moments experienced in real life. If your kids like marine life, this will be unforgettable.
People recommend the nonprofit: https://www.pacificwhale.org/
However if you're slightly more adventurous, and want more of a thrill, go for one of the speedboats. They go a lot closer, and the lower boat level next to the vast whales creates an experience hard to imagine.
The key is - check the ocean with your own two eyes before you book. If you're seeing tons of spouts, breaches, fins and tails - you're going to have a really good time on the boat - up close. If you don't see activity... it probably won't be great.
Kayaking
Biking
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises


Shopping:
  • Costco in Kahului has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Lapperts ice cream store


Kosher options in Maui

Chabad of Maui

**Contact Information:**
- **Rabbi:** Mendy Kras
- **Website:** [Kosher Maui Eats](https://www.koshermauieats.com)
- **Location:** Wailea, Maui
- **Contact:**
  - Phone: 808-222-9225
  - Email: chabadofmaui@gmail.com
  - WhatsApp: Available - same number as above.

**Services and Offerings:**
Chabad of Maui, led by Rabbi Mendy Kras, is dedicated to serving the needs of Jewish residents but also Jewish travelers in Maui. Known for their hospitality, they encourage visitors to get in touch for any assistance, particularly during peak vacation times like Yeshiva week.

1. **Kosher Food Options:**
   - **Shabbos Package:** A carefully prepared package for Shabbat, delivered on Fridays. Includes:
     - Meals for two: Double portions for both Friday night and Shabbat day.
     - Contents: First course with fish and salad, chicken with three sides for Friday night, double-wrapped for reheating. Saturday meals come with two courses, 3-4 sides, and dessert.
     - Extras: Challah, wine or grape juice, candles, and matches.
   - **Order Requirement:** Please place orders at least 48 hours in advance. However, if you find yourself in a pinch, do message Rabbi Kras for potential accommodations.
   - Note: This is a premium service due to the costs of maintaining kosher establishments in Maui. Your payments support the Chabad House overhead and operations.

2. **Community Engagement:**
   - **Minyan and Shul Services:** On request, Rabbi Kras can organize a minyan in a hotel over Shabbos, bringing a Sefer Torah and creating a temporary shul for tourists.
   - **Special Events:** During events like Yeshiva week, shul services have been organized in local hotels (e.g., the Four Seasons), complete with a minyan and kiddush. Contact Rabbi Kras for details.

**Supporting Chabad of Maui:**
Your contributions are highly appreciated to support Chabad of Maui's continued services for Jewish travelers.

**Additional Note:** Visitors are encouraged to bring or gift kosher products that are scarce in Maui, as a gesture of support for the Chabad house.

For any further information or assistance, you're welcome to reach out to Chabad of Maui. They are always eager to help ensure a comfortable and spiritually enriching experience for Jewish travelers in Maui.

And

Maui Kosher Farm
A Unique Kosher Experience in Maui

**Contact Information:**
- **Chef:** Mendel Zirkind
- **Cell and WhatsApp:** +1 (917) 440-2632
- **Websites:**
  - Kosher on Maui (https://www.kosheronmaui.com/)
  - Maui Kosher Farm (https://www.mauikosherfarm.com/)
- **Contact:** Use the provided phone number or websites for bookings and inquiries.

**Offerings and Services:**
Maui Kosher Farm, run by Mendel Zirkind and his wife, is a distinct destination offering a comprehensive kosher and Jewish experience in Maui.

1. **Farm Experience:**
   - **Family-Friendly Tour:** An engaging and educational tour suitable for all ages, complete with a special lunch prepared from farm produce.
   - **Artisanal Products:**
     - Sourdough Bread: Made to order (requires 48-72 hours notice).
     - Banana Chips: Made from the farm's bananas.
     - Honey: Produced from the farm's beehives.
     - Dairy Products: Inquire about CH"Y goat milk and homemade goat cheeses.
   - **Seasonal Offerings:** A variety of seasonal items from the farm.

2. **Culinary Services:**
   - **Private Chef:** Mendel offers gourmet meals available for daily takeout and, on select days, dine-in (advance booking required for takeout AND/OR Dine in. Check the website for the list of offerings).
   - **In-Home Chef Experience:** Mendel provides exclusive in-home chef services, subject to seasonal availability. Early booking is recommended.

3. **Shochet Services:**
   - Mendel, a skilled Shochet, can accommodate unique kosher meat requests, thanks to the diverse farm animals like quail, chickens, lambs, goats, geese, and ducks.

4. **Accommodations:**
   - **Lodging:** Unique lodging options available on the farm for an immersive experience. Contact Maui Kosher Farm for more details.

5. **Women's Mikvah:**
   - A new Spa Mikvah for women, managed by Mrs. Zirkind. More information available at Maui Kosher Women's Mikvah (https://www.mauikosher.com/womens-mikvah/).

Maui Kosher Farm is not just a destination but an oasis of kosher living and Jewish culture. Whether it's for a family-friendly farm tour, a luxurious private chef experience, or incredible artisanal products, Maui Kosher Farm offers a unique slice of paradise for Jewish travelers in Maui.
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« Reply #2120 on: June 17, 2015, 09:41:43 PM »
Car rental dude claimed that since state made it mandatory jail time there have been less issues.. Think as long as you park in visible place where there are crowds/other cars your fine. It's when you park in a deserted place that it is more of an issue.

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« Reply #2121 on: June 17, 2015, 09:42:31 PM »

Car rental dude claimed that since state made it mandatory jail time there have been less issues.. Think as long as you park in visible place where there are crowds/other cars your fine. It's when you park in a deserted place that it is more of an issue.
Who wants cars and other people:)

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« Reply #2122 on: June 17, 2015, 11:18:53 PM »
Who wants cars and other people:)
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« Reply #2123 on: June 19, 2015, 03:19:27 PM »
Just got a call from Enterprise. They say that there has been a recall of Mustang Convertibles and they wont have any while  am there :(
They said they can only give us a mid-size. Any else hear about this? 

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« Reply #2124 on: June 19, 2015, 03:37:22 PM »
Just got a call from Enterprise. They say that there has been a recall of Mustang Convertibles and they wont have any while  am there :(
They said they can only give us a mid-size. Any else hear about this?

Push them to give you a jeep wrangler

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Just got a call from Enterprise. They say that there has been a recall of Mustang Convertibles and they wont have any while  am there :(
They said they can only give us a mid-size. Any else hear about this?
No call from national.
Yet...

Would be disappointing

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« Reply #2126 on: June 19, 2015, 08:07:43 PM »
 :)  Jeep Wrangler would be nice.  We just got a mid-size, and honestly, after being in the beach for awhile, having a roof over your head while driving back is a welcome relief.  Its not exactly cold in Maui...:), not to mention the occasional showers....
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« Reply #2127 on: June 22, 2015, 01:46:05 PM »
Arrived late last night. National has no convertibles due to manufacturer recall. Oh well.
Got to andaz and despite being confirmed via Twitter and direct email
With hotel
Before arriving we didn't get into a poolside suite which I personally wAnted. Dealing with the Twitter team and hotel management this morning.  Funny thing is I'm usually not a complainer. I guess maui is bringing out the best in me :) any suggestions?

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« Reply #2128 on: June 22, 2015, 01:48:22 PM »
It is gorgeous here despite this. Don't really want to spend my time away being a complainer. But I do have a Wife to make happy.

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That's frustrating! You showed them the confirmation messages, and they won't do anything? Are they full or are there empty suites right now?

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« Reply #2130 on: June 22, 2015, 05:11:56 PM »

That's frustrating! You showed them the confirmation messages, and they won't do anything? Are they full or are there empty suites right now?
They say it's full :(

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« Reply #2131 on: June 23, 2015, 12:24:49 PM »
I asked this before but I'll try one more time... I have choice of two hotels in Wailea. Both cancel able at this point. Andaz or marriot Wailea?

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« Reply #2132 on: June 23, 2015, 12:26:24 PM »
I asked this before but I'll try one more time... I have choice of two hotels in Wailea. Both cancel able at this point. Andaz or marriot Wailea?
Andaz is supposed to be really nice.

Do you have a larger point stash with either one?
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« Reply #2133 on: June 23, 2015, 02:04:19 PM »
I asked this before but I'll try one more time... I have choice of two hotels in Wailea. Both cancel able at this point. Andaz or marriot Wailea?

I just came back from staying at the marriott for 4 nights & I checked out the andaz.. All things being equal I would say andaz is your best bet- it's spanking new vs the marriott has been around for 25/30 yrs..the Marriott rooms were nothing to write home about- didn't checkout the rooms in the andaz but I'm sure they are more modern etc the grounds of the Marriott are really very nice & their Infiniti pool I liked better then the andaz- it is really something special & is prob their biggest selling point. Keep in mind the beaches aren't too hot on premises. The andaz has a small little one in front of it that you have to cross over the main path (as opposed to beaches in Miami & Cancun etc that the beach is attached to the hotels. The marriot doesn't even have that-though all the hotels pretty much share the same beach on that side. The makena resort actually had the nicest beach from all the waliea hotels that I saw (andaz, 4 seasons, fairmont, grand waliea)

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« Reply #2134 on: June 23, 2015, 02:14:24 PM »
the andaz has the ulua beach in walking distance...id go for the andaz

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #2135 on: June 23, 2015, 03:47:00 PM »
I just came back from staying at the marriott for 4 nights & I checked out the andaz..
Welcome back! So, was Maui all you ever dreamed of??

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #2136 on: June 23, 2015, 05:25:06 PM »
Welcome back! So, was Maui all you ever dreamed of??
For sure! Hope to get a TR up soon

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #2137 on: June 24, 2015, 08:19:30 AM »
:P
That explains it. You could probably expect more changes.
BING BING BING!

Flight is now at 3:35, a comfortable 1.5 hours after scheduled landing. Not sure why this flight time didn't exist in the first place. May it stay at this time.

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #2138 on: June 25, 2015, 03:16:07 AM »
I just got back from a trip to Maui. Though a lot of the activities have been already covered by others many times over I figured I would share my experiences & 2 cents to give ppl another vantage point

Flights:
Hawaii has been calling for sometime now, but this freebee made it a no-brainer:
I signed up for aa business extra a few yrs ago simply because they had a 5k advantage sign up bonus. This past yr I logged into my account & was shocked to see some company (I have no idea who) has been crediting their flights (30k worth) to me  & I had exactly enough for 2 rntrp saver awards to Hawaii. What's more, they had to be flown this yr or they would expire! The main issue with Hawaii that came up was the shabbos/day line issue. After many discussions with various  ppl/rabbis we decided our best bet was a Sunday morning until Thursday night trip and avoid the whole issue. Since the flight I was able to get was flying out 2 hrs after shkiyah Thursday night there was still an interesting shayla about the techum but I was told it was not a problem. Business extra allows for a stopover which we wanted to take advantage of on our way back by stopping off in la for a few days. Ultimately though there wasn't any saver availability on the lax-Newark flight so I had to throw in the towel and actually use some united miles (I just love this game:). We flew out Sunday morning from Newark to Dallas & from Dallas to Maui. When we got off the plane in Dallas we were right in front of the Amex centurion lounge which was a perfect place for us to rest, get some food (cereal & fruit) and daven. They even gave me a conference room to use so I had some privacy to daven which is a rare luxury in an airport. They actually offer complimentary massages but that is only avaible after 9:00am which was when our flight was-probably the only time I ever wished I had a longer stopover! On the DFW-OGG flight I was able to maneuver things around so that me & my wife both had our own 2 seat rows to ourselves. & on the Ogg-lax & lax-Newark I got bulkheads & exit rows so all in all the flights weren't too bad even for us commoners flying in economy (cattle) class. The flight out from Ogg-lax was the most annoying since we were told to try to get to the gate before shkiyah we had over 2 hrs to kill & there isn't any lounges or for that matter much else in Maui airport. Still I would rather have that & still have a full day Thursday.

Hotels: Initially I wanted to stay in the Andaz  but alas there was no award availability (as I checked numerous dates over the summer I am under the impression they just close off the summer months from award nights) the rooms were over 500$ a night and as I had a bunch of marriott points to burn (from when I was first starting out with the Milage game & got suckered into getting their cards) I was content with the marriott Wailea. Originally i had reserved an ocean view room which they offered to upgrade us to their deluxe ocean view. We however found the deluxe room very drab & boring (it is deluxe that it is closer to the ocean but the view isn't much just a rocky shoreline with the walkway right below our room)  we opted for the ocean view room overlooking the Infiniti pool & we were very happy with it. The rooms are older & not very impressive (no stand alone shower etc)-certainly a far cry from the jw in Cancun where we last stated, but the grounds are magnificent. The views are breathtaking & just sitting in the infinity pool & taking it all in makes contending with the mediocre room totally worth it. The hotel is right next to the grand waliea as well as the four seasons & fairmont. None of the hotels have a great beach & they pretty much all share the same ones. The andaz has at least a small beach in front of it but again nothing to write home about. The hotel with the nicest beach on its premises that I saw was actually the Makenah golf resort. It's 3 miles further down from the marriott & is more subdued but the beach is very wide & spacious with great sand & clear water. Might be a great choice depending on ppls priorities.

Cars: you can get a full size car for relatively cheap using cheap Hawaiian car rentals but a jeep or convertible will cost you at least twice as much & parking in the Marriott is 25$ a night ( and I think it's similar in other hotels) I decided to go a different route that worked out great. I rented a one-way from the airport to waliea for 65$ and got a mustang through cheaphawaiin. We then returned the car that eve. Budget is about a 10min walk away & the hotel offers free shuttles around waliea besides. The Marriott has an onsite enterprise which is run by a great lady named Jackie. She was extremely helpful especially for coming up with some creative rentals to avoid the overnight fee (enterprise uses the same lot as the Marriott parking garage)as well as after hour pickups & dropoffs. I rented a sonata on Monday using one of the many corporate accounts out there for 35$. On Tuesday we wanted a jeep for the road to Hana which we got from budget via cheaphawaiin for 75$. Finally for wendsday eve we did a one way rental from waliea to ogg that I dropped off at the airport thur eve for 75$ my total was 250$ & we had the cars we wanted without ever paying for parking. Not saying this is for everyone but it is a good option to be aware of.

General points:
1-Hawaii is freakin far!! (There got that one out of the way)
2- there are a lot of big chain stores not just Costco (which is all I ever heard about on this thread or Maui revealed) there is target, Walmart & safeways.
3- the sun is supper strong probably the strongest most ppl will ever experience so just because you tan nicely in Miami won't mean you won't bake in Maui.
4- the weather was actually amazing while I was here and the rule of thumb at most tropical locations definitely applies here as well: 'you don't like the weather? Wait 5 minutes... ' here it's even more than that, if it's raining & stormy at one beach you literally can drive a mile down to another beach that is calm and sunny. Really!
5- Maui revealed is a must! though the app I didn't find as helpful as the times you need it most were when you have no cell service.
6- it's been alluded to in Maui revealed but I'm going to be straight up about it: Hawaiian natives are not friendly or nice ppl (and not bright to put it mildly). I know I know you can't generalize blah blah but from my experience it was pretty consistent & you can right off the bat tell the difference from a born & bred pineapple vs someone that's from the mainland. Don't want to be judgemental-great! Just don't go there expecting to be enchanted with the natives because that isn't exactly the selling point of the islands. In contrast a place like Costa Rica the locals added so much flavor to the experience & were really enjoyable to hang with, hire as guides etc. these guys on the other hand are not a pleasure to deal with- again just my opinion from a very limited experience
7- everything in Hawaii moves at least 5 Times slower than the rest of the world so 2 min is 10min 10min is almost an hr & if they tell you in an hr or 2 you can just forget about it happening that day..
8- it seems all the beaches on the islands are considered public property so you can literally go to any beach you want & there is always access (at least that is how it was explained to me)
9- tabi shoes I didn't see such a need  for since most of the time you need hiking shoes to get to the water-hole etc & once there not sure how necessary they are In the water, but the mats for going to the beach & laying on looked very worthwhile..
10-the best thing you can do for your trip is to stay on your old time zone. This way waking up at 5;00 is really like waking up at 11:00 and turning in at 10:00 is like going to sleep at 4:00am. This will suite you so much better for activities ( a lot are better done in the early morning) and will help you leverage  your time wisely to get the most out of your days.
11- you should always ask when booking something if there is a discount, packages  or coupons. There is normally a 10% discount for booking online which they always are willing to give you even if you book over te phone-saved me a pretty penny just from asking..

Food & activities will come in a few days

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #2139 on: June 25, 2015, 04:06:38 AM »
Food:
Being that all is the food items are supposed to be insanely expensive in Hawaii we did a serious shopping trip before hand & brought basic food items & plastics along. Items we took: instant oatmeal, instant soups, chewy bars. Beef jerky from Wasserman & lemberger ( distributed as ufshnit in a lot of stores) cereals, grillers (veg burgers) &  flats & mini Pitas. You can prob buy most of the items at target/Walmart/Coscto just at a premium. The gift shop in the marriott even sold sabra chummus chips.. I Amazon primed a 14$ toaster straight to the hotel which was perfect for heating up all our foods & saved us the scavenger hunt for one when we arrived (I learnt my lesson from Puerto Rico where I brought tons of meat to grill but couldn't find any disposable/charcoal/propane grill on the entire island)the Starbucks as well as the breakfast the hotel offers both were accommodating in giving up phillidelphia cream cheese packets as well as hot water.  We decided to give the pomegranate meals a chance & brought enough meals for each night plus 2 soups & cheese blintses & eggplant pomisane & penne for lunch. I had a real fiasco with my order with them which I wrote about unthread. Not looking to get into it here but I will say that I was mishandled by them & their customer service is no longer at the standards of the brand that they created. Still I will be objective about the actual meals & how it worked out. Also I will say that when ordering with them make sure you are very clear with exact instructions & be clear what your intentions are in terms of being frozen, packaged, picked up etc. the issues that I ran into started with me speaking with a guy that didn't speak English as a first (or prob even second) language so you prob want to make sure you speak with an American vs chassidish or isreali- let's leave it at that!!
The meals for the most part come in a 5x7 which fit pretty well in my 8x6 toaster though the door didn't actually fully close.we brought extra alumni to rewrap stuff that were to large. I put the meals in freezer bags with ice & it stayed frozen for over 20 hrs! On the plane they told me by checkin that frozen liquid such as ice or soup has to be checked in or tsa would confiscate- I confirmed with tsa that it is indeed allowed on carry on if it is completely frozen( good to know) though their policy is to charge 20$ per meal to warm up, the Marriott was very accommodating about storing the meals in their freezer. Each morning I would have room service bring me the box we put it in( you don't want it in a cooler since it will defrost even in the freezer as my incident with pomegranate shows.) & I would remove the meals for that day & they would put the rest back. It took the meals longer to warm up since the toaster wouldn't fully close but otherwise it was  perfect. Also some of the wrappings weren't great but since we Brought aluminum along it was no big to rewrap. The food is indeed amazing and that's coming from someone that has a real ax to grind with them! I was shocked that it was indeed fulling enough and rvery night 
I went to sleep completely full. The meals are delicious and as it is relatively hassle free (compared to trying to grill on a porch while avoiding wind,rain,security) I can't believe I didn't do it before! Here is my ratings if it helps:
Meals:
Eggplant pomisan: 9
Cheezy blintses 8
Pastrami 7
Broccoli 8
Couscous 5
Sino steak 8
Ribs 9
Asparagus 6
Cabbage noodles 9
Meat balls 8
Grilled chicken 7
Roasted peppers 7
Asian rice 7
Penne 8
Veg soup 8 (salty)
Zucchini soup 8 (salty)