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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1727693 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3000 on: September 01, 2013, 09:22:02 PM »
I get plenty of support from my family.  ;)
I did just pass an Amex FR last month.  :)
Did you have to send in tax returns?


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3001 on: September 01, 2013, 09:29:37 PM »
Did you have to send in tax returns?
1 year taxes and 3 months bank statements.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3002 on: September 01, 2013, 10:00:50 PM »
I've been going wayy over my limits on ip and ib for tje last few months. I just bumped in to this thread to find out it's a problem...
What are my chances being closed down if I continue doing what I'm doing...?

I take it it's risky even if you pay in full before due date? Or if you pay most before closing date?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3003 on: September 01, 2013, 10:10:51 PM »
I've been going wayy over my limits on ip and ib for tje last few months. I just bumped in to this thread to find out it's a problem...
What are my chances being closed down if I continue doing what I'm doing...?

I take it it's risky even if you pay in full before due date? Or if you pay most before closing date?
How much over? I think they also look at other things together, ie if your credit & if your profile supports it

Edit:ink bold
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 10:21:27 PM by aryeh1 »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3004 on: September 01, 2013, 10:20:43 PM »
I've been going wayy over my limits on ip and ib for tje last few months. I just bumped in to this thread to find out it's a problem...
What are my chances being closed down if I continue doing what I'm doing...?

I take it it's risky even if you pay in full before due date? Or if you pay most before closing date?
AFAIK they dont like when you go over the limit THEY gave you, no matter if you pay in full before your statement closes etc...... what bal gaves......
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3005 on: September 01, 2013, 10:21:47 PM »
AFAIK they dont like when you go over the limit THEY gave you, no matter if you pay in full before your statement closes etc...... what bal gaves......
Ink bold too??

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3006 on: September 01, 2013, 10:32:47 PM »
I used more then double on the ib and more then triple on the ip...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3007 on: September 01, 2013, 10:35:16 PM »
How much over? I think they also look at other things together, ie if your credit & if your profile supports it

Edit:ink bold
credit and profile should support it

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3008 on: September 02, 2013, 01:21:23 AM »
How the heck would I know?
But hundreds of people have reported being shut down for UR-UR and not one person here has a firsthand report of UR>UA shutdown.
I had a shmooze with someone I used to deal UR with Yesterday.
He got AA'd for UR > UA.
He wasn't changing IPs.
He did many transfers totaling millions of UR.
They canceled all the United tickets and AA'd The URs
It was a one time incident.
This may have been the same person Mordy44 was talking about.
Maybe not.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3009 on: September 02, 2013, 01:42:25 AM »
I had a shmooze with someone I used to deal UR with Yesterday.
He got AA'd for UR > UA.
He wasn't changing IPs.
He did many transfers totaling millions of UR.
They canceled all the United tickets and AA'd The URs
It was a one time incident.
This may have been the same person Mordy44 was talking about.
Maybe not.
Here we go again :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3010 on: September 09, 2013, 12:35:02 PM »
I don't know if I post in the right thread..
After transferring miles chase locked my online account, I called them up and they said that I'm a victim of identity theft and someone used my miles...
Since then everytime I call they ask me hundred questions about my profile and miles...
Anyone ever had this?Anything to be worried?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3011 on: September 09, 2013, 12:37:26 PM »
I don't know if I post in the right thread..
After transferring miles chase locked my online account, I called them up and they said that I'm a victim of identity theft and someone used my miles...
Since then everytime I call they ask me hundred questions about my profile and miles...
Anyone ever had this?Anything to be worried?
Did they give you the miles back? :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3012 on: September 09, 2013, 02:11:49 PM »
So we now have a new מהלך how to handle a A/A due to abusing perks like transferring points to different people's accounts????????
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3013 on: September 09, 2013, 03:14:41 PM »
Can't imagine how that would work unless you want to try prosecuting the people you sold your points to for ID theft??

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3014 on: September 09, 2013, 04:42:59 PM »
So we now have a new מהלך how to handle a A/A due to abusing perks like transferring points to different people's accounts????????
he wasn't A/A"d. it was a fraud alert.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3015 on: September 12, 2013, 12:29:49 PM »
So my brother was A/A on his buisness account and since his credit score is anyways messed up for some other reasons... He's taking his time  nice and easy paying back the debt he owes... So in which way will this affect the buisness, and in the future will the buisness be able to apply for CC or credit loan? ( buisness is in good overall standing  and does a couple million in sales a year and can show all necessary paperwork for that)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3016 on: September 12, 2013, 08:44:54 PM »
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-09/jpmorgan-raises-legal-reserve-by-at-least-1-5-billion.html
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JPMorgan added 3,000 employees to bolster internal controls and compliance as it grapples with multiple investigations and regulatory orders

With 3,000 new compliance workers I'd be very careful about things that look fishy, including cash and money order deposits.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3017 on: September 12, 2013, 09:01:29 PM »
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-09/jpmorgan-raises-legal-reserve-by-at-least-1-5-billion.html
With 3,000 new compliance workers I'd be very careful about things that look fishy, including cash and money order deposits.
When did they hire these people? You're scaring the daylights out of me :'(


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3018 on: September 12, 2013, 09:12:52 PM »
When did they hire these people? You're scaring the daylights out of me :'(

Not sure exactly, but it was as as the result of the regulators coming after them, which was pretty recently.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3019 on: September 12, 2013, 09:18:00 PM »
That's why I know of a few businesses who have switched over most of their banking to other banks.

Not worth the risk dealing with them.
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