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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1727760 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3120 on: September 29, 2013, 01:55:57 PM »
It's all about luck....... I am sure if Chase would look in to some DDF'rs accounts they will not think a min before shooting them down...... they probably look randomly on accounts and when they see GC etc...... they just shot you... you have to play this game safe as well, don't withdrawal your AP in to your Chase bank account. try using AP just for biz. OR personal so you can explain that you are using it for your business OR paying off some bills (they wont like to see all your cards spending on AP) same thing for GW if someone still using it... same for CVS charges you have to explain why your charging 10,000 dollars a month there, source you can or say your buying expensive medication you don't have insurance.. with your personal card OR you are buying stuff for cheap to to flip on ebay with your business card..... spending with both cards is more harder to explain, (though you can explain that you used them for your personal use and then you realized that you can make money also....) and as always mix it with general every day spending.
Do they even ask you to explain when you get A/A'd?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3121 on: September 29, 2013, 02:04:44 PM »
Do they even ask you to explain when you get A/A'd?
Usually not, however some people reported getting a phone call from Chase compliance dept. asking about AP etc.... they are the guys who are closing the accounts.
also "explain" not necessary means what YOU explain, its just what the Chase rep who reviews your account can explain to him self.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3122 on: September 29, 2013, 02:36:05 PM »
Usually not, however some people reported getting a phone call from Chase compliance dept. asking about AP etc.... they are the guys who are closing the accounts.
Most accounts are being closed by LP. There is no way to talk to them.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3123 on: September 29, 2013, 03:30:25 PM »
Most accounts are being closed by LP. There is no way to talk to them.
And what is this number? 1-877-691-8086
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3124 on: September 29, 2013, 03:47:37 PM »
Most accounts are being closed by LP. There is no way to talk to them.

The A/A letters are signed by LP?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3125 on: September 29, 2013, 04:43:07 PM »
The A/A letters are signed by LP?
Operating Loss Prevention department. LP for short.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3126 on: September 29, 2013, 05:04:24 PM »
The A/A letters are signed by LP?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3127 on: September 29, 2013, 06:28:51 PM »
does ap trigger a A/A?
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3128 on: September 29, 2013, 07:08:55 PM »
does ap trigger a A/A?
When its done not careful-yes.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3129 on: September 29, 2013, 10:49:01 PM »
When its done not careful-yes.
how can it be done careful?
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3130 on: September 29, 2013, 11:00:38 PM »
how can it be done careful?
Not withdrawing the money to same Chase account.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3131 on: September 30, 2013, 12:13:10 AM »
Not withdrawing the money to same Chase account.
source?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3133 on: September 30, 2013, 10:58:08 AM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3134 on: September 30, 2013, 06:07:56 PM »
Hi everyone , chase closed down 6 of my cards without  any warnings  , and i had over 300k points i called them up and they say they cant  do anything for me , please help me

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3135 on: September 30, 2013, 06:46:03 PM »
Hi everyone , chase closed down 6 of my cards without  any warnings  , and i had over 300k points i called them up and they say they cant  do anything for me , please help me
we are the same boat if you have any solution pls update us
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3136 on: September 30, 2013, 06:49:48 PM »
Hi everyone , chase closed down 6 of my cards without  any warnings  , and i had over 300k points i called them up and they say they cant  do anything for me , please help me
Welcome to the club!!!
Most people were not able to get their accounts reopened..... unfortunately.....
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3137 on: September 30, 2013, 06:53:52 PM »
This is definitely starting to look like a trend.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3138 on: September 30, 2013, 06:55:27 PM »
Hi everyone , chase closed down 6 of my cards without  any warnings  , and i had over 300k points i called them up and they say they cant  do anything for me , please help me
Did you make UR transfers?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3139 on: September 30, 2013, 07:14:11 PM »
Hi everyone , chase closed down 6 of my cards without  any warnings  , and i had over 300k points i called them up and they say they cant  do anything for me , please help me
Do you have a checking account with them? what's about that?
Did you recive any letter from Chase, if yes what did it say?
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