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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1729527 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4100 on: December 28, 2013, 10:48:36 PM »
I think this should be better documented. This should be added to the topic wiki, as I have never read anywhere (besides for now going through some of the 270+ pages) that a high credit limit is an issue. In fact I bet most users here have a total CL around what mine was or possibly higher.

I know I'm one isolated case... But truthfully I didn't do any of the red flags that people mention here, my advice: cash out! empty your UR.
I still hope this won't affect any other family members.
Most members here are older then you. It bothers them when someone that just got credit haves a big CL.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4101 on: December 28, 2013, 11:00:11 PM »
74K total, 20 of that was Chase.
How much of that was personal and how much business?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4102 on: December 28, 2013, 11:07:07 PM »
Hey guys does anybody know about when buying gift cards from the gas stations eg like buying visa gift cards from sunoco with my chase freedom next quarter if I buy it as a 500 dollar card will it raise the ire of chase to close down my card and/or to not give me the 5 points when they see a 500 dollar charge to a gas station?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4103 on: December 28, 2013, 11:17:55 PM »
Most members here are older then you. It bothers them when someone that just got credit haves a big CL.
I'm wondering how you know my age? and what do you mean by 'just got credit'  I have had credit since 2009.
How much of that was personal and how much business?
All of it was personal.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4104 on: December 28, 2013, 11:58:45 PM »
Desperate plea to all DDF'ers out there: If anyone has been successfully reinstated can you PLEASE PM me the details of how you did it? I've been browsing this thread for 2 hours and have not figured out a coherent way of going about this.

Thanks
Bump, just please PM me as well even if not reinstated at least getting some $ back for the points is also good.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4105 on: December 28, 2013, 11:59:45 PM »
Most members here are older then you. It bothers them when someone that just got credit haves a big CL.
I guess Chase must be confused. They gave a 27k CL on the IP card to a 22 year old.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4106 on: December 29, 2013, 12:00:57 AM »
I'm wondering how you know my age?
Your father told me  :P
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4107 on: December 29, 2013, 12:32:26 AM »
74K total, 20 of that was Chase.
What was your reported income?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4108 on: December 29, 2013, 11:13:27 AM »
Bump, just please PM me as well even if not reinstated at least getting some $ back for the points is also good.
no luck by most of us...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4109 on: December 29, 2013, 11:25:57 AM »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4110 on: December 29, 2013, 11:46:04 AM »
85k.
74k in total CL (all banks combined! Only 20k at Chase...) is a problem for 85k reported income?? That's so hard to believe.
Do you make minimum payments?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4111 on: December 29, 2013, 01:17:17 PM »
74k in total CL (all banks combined! Only 20k at Chase...) is a problem for 85k reported income?? That's so hard to believe.
Do you make minimum payments?
I have always paid all accounts (Chase and all others) in full on time.
I have never missed or made a late payment.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4112 on: December 29, 2013, 01:19:29 PM »
I have always paid all accounts (Chase and all others) in full on time.
I have never missed or made a late payment.


Maybe that's your problem, for some it may be worthwhile to have a little interest charge once a year like a $3 or $4 and then they are "making" money off of you...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4113 on: December 29, 2013, 01:52:05 PM »

Maybe that's your problem, for some it may be worthwhile to have a little interest charge once a year like a $3 or $4 and then they are "making" money off of you...
not very probable

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4114 on: December 29, 2013, 02:08:12 PM »
I have over 100k CL with Chase and another 150k in my other cards. I would love to reduce that but I don't wanna touch anything that may trigger.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4115 on: December 29, 2013, 02:24:05 PM »
I have over 100k CL with Chase and another 150k in my other cards. I would love to reduce that but I don't wanna touch anything that may trigger.
I have read that reducing CL can affect your credit score, only question is if you reduce does that mean Chase will not bother you after that.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4116 on: December 29, 2013, 02:38:43 PM »
I have over 100k CL with Chase and another 150k in my other cards. I would love to reduce that but I don't wanna touch anything that may trigger.
Especially since there is no 'hard data' and if you start to reduce what would be your goal? As I have gotten AA'ed with having just 74 CL...
I would just make sure you empty out your UR from time to time, especially before signing up for a new card. Although, signing up for another card is also a trigger..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4117 on: December 29, 2013, 02:41:02 PM »

Maybe that's your problem, for some it may be worthwhile to have a little interest charge once a year like a $3 or $4 and then they are "making" money off of you...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4118 on: December 29, 2013, 05:31:20 PM »
Especially since there is no 'hard data' and if you start to reduce what would be your goal? As I have gotten AA'ed with having just 74 CL...
I would just make sure you empty out your UR from time to time, especially before signing up for a new card. Although, signing up for another card is also a trigger..

I have 700k UR don't know where to transfer to

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4119 on: December 29, 2013, 06:36:51 PM »
1.2MM but I have no idea where to transfer to :P
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.