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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #260 on: August 24, 2022, 08:56:56 PM »
So you would call a group of voters that votes against a candidate because of their sincere understanding of biblical values are a bunch of bible denying nutcases?
Is there any sincere belief out there that while the Bible is the word of G-d, a directive described within is a moral travesty?
I haven’t seen that, If there is I think it’s nuts.
Perhaps you missed this ?:
to think it’s nuts to believe the Bible and still think something described within is a moral travesty - tut tut, that’s projecting my moral beliefs on others…
Do I have this straight?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #261 on: August 24, 2022, 09:13:40 PM »
Is this site incorrect that "moral laws" are not abrogated as per some christians (based on the site title I'd guess evangelicals)?
We are getting into a can of worms. First, I would ask if an Evangelical Christian is a Christian? They do have some different beliefs than "Christians".

I am not a theologian, but if you know any Christians, ask them if cheating on your spouse should elicit the death penalty? Adultery is no different than being gay. 
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #262 on: August 24, 2022, 09:15:00 PM »
So you would call a group of voters that votes against a candidate because of their sincere understanding of biblical values are a bunch of bible denying nutcases? Would that then make you a ?
Huh?
How does thinking someone (not sure this person exists) has a nutty (from my perspective, you’re welcome to have more accepting viewpoints, ??) religious belief, equal hating religion as a whole?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #263 on: August 24, 2022, 09:17:55 PM »
I am not a theologian, but if you know any Christians, ask them if cheating on your spouse should elicit the death penalty? Adultery is no different than being gay.
Agree. Evangelicals differentiate?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #264 on: August 24, 2022, 09:22:51 PM »
Agree. Evangelicals differentiate?
I have not heard from them adultery should elicit the death penalty. To be fair I haven't really been paying attention to them. The issue is the nutcase in question committed adultery. Does he believe he should be put to death?  :)
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #265 on: August 24, 2022, 09:28:39 PM »
Is there any sincere belief out there that while the Bible is the word of G-d, a directive described within is a moral travesty?
I haven’t seen that, If there is I think it’s nuts.
Perhaps you missed this ?:

If someone literally applies the biblical directive described as "an eye for an eye", would that be a moral travesty?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #266 on: August 24, 2022, 09:30:24 PM »
The issue is the nutcase in question committed adultery. Does he believe he should be put to death?  :)
That likely depends on the marital status of the woman allegedly he was involved with.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #267 on: August 24, 2022, 09:33:01 PM »
That likely depends on the marital status of the woman allegedly he was involved with.
I am willing to bet it doesn't matter.  ;)
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #268 on: August 24, 2022, 09:34:52 PM »
If someone literally applies the biblical directive described as "an eye for an eye", would that be a moral travesty?
Only from the perspective of someone who disagrees with that interpretation.
Christianity doesn’t have an alternative “interpretation” of the punishment described within. They believe, perhaps, it’s been abrogated, but that’s very different than saying it’s completely nuts to think it was ever “just”.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #270 on: August 24, 2022, 09:52:20 PM »
Only from the perspective of someone who disagrees with that interpretation.
Christianity doesn’t have an alternative “interpretation” of the punishment described within. They believe, perhaps, it’s been abrogated, but that’s very different than saying it’s completely nuts to think it was ever “just”.
The way you are delving into Christianity is a good example of this.
No, ignoring the teachings of your religion for your personal agenda does!



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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #271 on: August 24, 2022, 10:16:27 PM »
I am willing to bet it doesn't matter.  ;)
That wouldn't be in line with how they explained in that article, because the Old Testament clearly differentiates and doesn't mandate the death penalty if the woman isn't married. Sure, Christianity considers it "adultery" and has their set of beliefs for why its strictly prohibited, but there is no way to biblically justify a death sentence for that specific behavior.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #273 on: August 25, 2022, 11:30:28 AM »
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If this race is any indication, the red wave is going to be bigger than anyone could have guessed.

In 2020 Delgado and Biden won the district by 11%. Ryan won by 2%. If there is a nationwide swing of 9 points towards the Republicans that means a major blow out victory for them.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #274 on: August 25, 2022, 12:57:13 PM »
If this race is any indication, the red wave is going to be bigger than anyone could have guessed.

In 2020 Delgado and Biden won the district by 11%. Ryan won by 2%. If there is a nationwide swing of 9 points towards the Republicans that means a major blow out victory for them.
Thats one way to play with numbers. The other is it was R, flipped D and was expected to flip R again especially with the president numbers in the tank. That didn't happen.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #275 on: August 25, 2022, 01:19:42 PM »
Thats one way to play with numbers. The other is it was R, flipped D and was expected to flip R again especially with the president numbers in the tank. That didn't happen.

I lived in that district until a year ago. It has been becoming bluer for years, and that was accelerated over COVID with young liberals moving in to get away from the city.

Faso only won in 2016 because;

1 -He ran against an extreme liberal (Zephyr Teachout) who didn't live in the district until she decided to run.

2 - Trump's coattails.

Before that there was a Republican Congressman who was extremely popular in the area, and who (in his last election at least) ran against a guy whose also moved to the district in order to run for Congress.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #277 on: August 25, 2022, 04:18:30 PM »
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