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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2022, 02:33:51 PM »
OK but the Rabbinim, organizations, and communities that he (and some commenters) thinks is ok to bash....
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But at what cost?
Anyway, I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about him/his website as I really know nothing. Just was commenting as it was my first time seeing that website and I was truly blown away.
+1K. Shocking and disgusting talk.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2022, 02:38:30 PM »
Just was commenting as it was my first time seeing that website and I was truly blown away.
Ignoring all the LH there, but as far at the racist tropes there, I remind people that
In CLE many people started eating at Peking Chinese in the early 90s when a non-frum Jew sold it to a heimishe yid. It was under the mainstream CLE hechsher the whole time.

The heimishe yid is the one that fed everyone treif, even to his own parents.
Of course, the heimishe yid also had a lot more access for shenanigans.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2022, 03:02:01 PM »
The sad reality is that the store is now closing due to this unsubstantiated allegation, causing some people in the area who would otherwise eat there to buy treif instead.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2022, 03:05:05 PM »
The sad reality is that the store is now closing due to this unsubstantiated allegation, causing some people in the area who would otherwise eat there to buy treif instead.

To me such a sudden closure seems to be a strange reaction to something that could have been cleared up if his explanation is true.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2022, 03:05:43 PM »
causing some people in the area who would otherwise eat there to buy treif instead.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2022, 03:07:19 PM »
[Citation needed]

Fairly obvious based on knowledge of the area. Packed with "traditional" Jews.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2022, 03:08:27 PM »
To me such a sudden closure seems to be a strange reaction to something that could have been cleared up if his explanation is true.
How many people who would normally go there will now say something like "why risk it, I'll just buy food in Lakewood". It can completely kill the financial viability of the business, he may as well cut his losses now instead of bleeding cash for a few months before closing down.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2022, 03:10:22 PM »
The sad reality is that the store is now closing due to this unsubstantiated allegation, causing some people in the area who would otherwise eat there to buy treif instead.

On a 50/50 chance that he did sell treif I'd be much more concerned for those people who really keep Kashrus who might consumed treifos than those who will buy real treifos now because this establishment closed down.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2022, 03:11:54 PM »
On a 50/50 chance that he did sell treif I'd be much more concerned for those people who really keep Kashrus who might consumed treifos than those who will buy real treifos now because this establishment closed down.
How is it a 50/50 based on this?!?

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2022, 03:14:47 PM »
On a 50/50 chance that he did sell treif I'd be much more concerned for those people who really keep Kashrus who might consumed treifos than those who will buy real treifos now because this establishment closed down.
Halacha says eid echad ne'eman b'issurin. The hechsher says there is no treif food and they are believed. Nothing more is needed.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2022, 03:14:50 PM »
How is it a 50/50 based on this?!?

I didn't say *this* case is a 50/50, we barely know anything yet. Was expressing on that idea in general.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2022, 03:16:52 PM »
Halacha says eid echad ne'eman b'issurin. The hechsher says there is no treif food and they are believed. Nothing more is needed.

Does the hecsher allow food bought there yesterday to be eaten? Seems like they're investigating still.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2022, 03:17:00 PM »
There is no mitzva to be overly Dan lkaf zchus or not speaking LH when something looks suspicious. It has to be clarified. whether it is a jewish owner or non jewish owner. A normal guy doesnít buy cases of chicken for his house. ( maybe it said he had another store, idk) we are talking about possible tarfus entering holy Yiddishe neshamos cĒv. Donít be so nice about things. It is serious stuff!!

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2022, 03:18:39 PM »
Definetely  at least 50/50 chance based on fact that he closed up shop the second he got confronted!

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2022, 03:18:46 PM »
There is no mitzva to be overly Dan lkaf zchus or not speaking LH when something looks suspicious. It has to be clarified. whether it is a jewish owner or non jewish owner. A normal guy doesnít buy cases of chicken for his house. ( maybe it said he had another store, idk) we are talking about possible tarfus entering holy Yiddishe neshamos cĒv. Donít be so nice about things. It is serious stuff!!

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2022, 03:19:01 PM »
Definetely  at least 50/50 chance based on fact that he closed up shop the second he got confronted!
How many people who would normally go there will now say something like "why risk it, I'll just buy food in Lakewood". It can completely kill the financial viability of the business, he may as well cut his losses now instead of bleeding cash for a few months before closing down.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2022, 03:25:31 PM »
There is no mitzva to be overly Dan lkaf zchus or not speaking LH when something looks suspicious. It has to be clarified. whether it is a jewish owner or non jewish owner. A normal guy doesnít buy cases of chicken for his house. ( maybe it said he had another store, idk) we are talking about possible tarfus entering holy Yiddishe neshamos cĒv. Donít be so nice about things. It is serious stuff!!
This is based on feelings, not halacha.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2022, 03:25:51 PM »
He thought that all through all of sudden. They accused me therefore everyone will go to lakewood instead. I donít buy that. If business was successful, and he didnít do anything wrong, he would have tried to weather the storm