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Airports:
  • CLE is about 15 minutes from downtown and 25-30 minutes from the Jewish community.  It's a focus city for Frontier, Spirit, and United.
  • The RTA (Rapid transit train) at Brookpark station has free parking and is just 1 train stop (3 minutes) to the stop inside the airport. The train costs $2.50 and the schedule is here: http://www.riderta.com/routes/redline/schedules/current#WestboundWeekday
    An uber from Brookpark station to CLE is about $10.
  • Uber between the Jewish community and CLE is about $30.
  • CLE off-site parking is about $9/day, on-site parking is $17-$22/day, and curbside valet parking is $35/day.
  • CAK is ~40 minutes from the Jewish community and located nearby the NFL Hall of Fame.
  • Uber between the Jewish community and CAK is about $45.
  • CAK parking is $7/day for long-term and $15-$18/day for short-term.
  • PIT is ~100 minutes from the Jewish community. It offers nonstop service to London, Montreal, and more.

Hotels:
  • There is a Hyatt Place in Legacy Village within walking distance of the Jewish community, though it's located just outside of the Eruv. It costs only 8K points/night.
  • There is a nice Hyatt Regency downtown for 12K points/night (25 minutes drive) in a unique vintage arcade building and an excellent spa that gives hotel guests 25% off and accepts SpaFinder certs from Costco that can be purchased for an additional 20% off.
  • The nicest hotel in Cleveland is like the Ritz-Carlton downtown. Marriott's Metropolitan at The 9 is also highly regarded, with a bar in an old vault. There is also a Hilton, Westin, and Kimpton downtown.

Transportation:
  • There is a subway/light rail connecting the airport with downtown, University Circle (where the Case campus and many museums are) and the Jewish community area, but renting a car is pretty much required unless you are just going between the airport and downtown.

Minyan times and locations:
  • https://www.localjewishnews.com/minyanim/
  • Walking distance in miles from Hyatt Place Legacy Village:
  • Cedar Sinai 0.5
  • JLC 1
  • Menorah Park: 1
  • Bais Dovid 1.1
  • JFX 1.1
  • Zemach Zedek East 1.3
  • Zichron Chaim 1.3
  • Heichal 1.3
  • Heights Jewish Center 1.4
  • Bais Avrohom 1.4
  • GRS 1.4
  • Young Israel 1.5
  • Chabad 1.5
  • Kollel 1.5
  • Aleksander 1.6
  • Beachwood Kehilla 1.6
  • ZAZ 1.7


CLE Metro Activities:
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Museums:
  • Great Lakes Science Center (Downtown)
  • Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (Downtown)
  • USS COD (Downtown)
  • International Women's Air & Space Museum (Downtown)
  • Baseball Heritage Museum (Midtown)
  • NFL Hall of Fame (Canton)
  • National Inventors Hall of Fame. (Akron)
  • Cleveland Museum of Art, one of the best in the nation and it's free (University Circle)
  • Children's Museum  (University Circle)
  • Museum of Natural History and Planetarium (University Circle)
  • Auto-Aviation museum has lots of vintage cars and more (University Circle)
  • Maltz Museum of Jewish Heritage (Beachwood)
  • Polka Hall of Fame (Downtown)

Amusement parks/Thrill rides/Game Rooms:
  • Cedar Point has been voted "Best Amusement Park in the World" for 16 consecutive years. It has the best and several of the top 10 coasters in the world. (Sandusky, open May-October)
  • Chalet Tobogganing (November-March) on the west side.
  • Fun-n-stuff (Arcades, later tag, mini golf, rock climbing, roller skating, mini go karts for the little ones, regular go karts, bumper boats, batting cages, etc.)
  • Whirlyball is a spin-off of Basketball and LaCrosse played on bumper cars and is incredibly fun.
  • Dave & Busters is on the west side near Crocker Park.
  • African Safari Wildlife Park Sandusky
  • Kalahari Indoor Waterpark and Soak City outdoor waterpark in Sandusky.
  • Memphis Kiddie Park (Amusement park for kids)
  • Jumpyard for kids
  • Playground World for kids
  • Swings & Things
  • Make Believe (Parma)
  • Adrenaline Monkey
  • Play Cle

Beaches/Water Activities:
  • North Coast Harbor Marina has Jet skis for 100/hr and 60/half hr. Paddle boats, kayaks, and paddle boards are $25/hour or $15/half hr (Downtown).
  • Edgewater beach park
  • Mentor Headlands beach park
  • Geneva on the lake.
  • Jet Pack Water Adventures in Sandusky

Sports:
  • The Guardians, Cavs, and Browns provide major league sports entertainment in downtown Cleveland along with the minor league hockey Lake Erie Monsters.  Browns games are great with some of the best/craziest fans in the NFL and the Guardians have a glatt kosher hot dog stand.
  • There are minor league Indians teams in Akron and in Eastlake on the east side of Cleveland.

Other activities:
  • Shaker Lakes, duck feeding, nature center and paths
  • Holden Arboretum
  • Cleveland Botanical Garden
  • Zoo and Rainforest (Free for CLE residents on Mondays)
  • Aquarium (Downtown)
  • JACK Casino, Smoke-free! (Downtown)
  • Cleveland Orchestra, one of the "Big Five" American orchestras (University Circle)
  • Playhouse Square, second largest theater complex in the United States with Broadway shows at a fraction of the cost on Broadway.
  • East 4th downtown pedestrian street district (bars/comedy shows/bowling/casino).
  • Lake Erie Islands/Put-in-Bay.
  • Chagrin Falls is a quaint village on the east side to walk around and you too can be chagrined by the falls. The village is the birthplace and setting of Calvin and Hobbes adventures: https://www.reddit.com/r/calvinandhobbes/comments/o2wszi/calvin_destroying_a_city_next_to_a_picture_of/
  • Outdoor Ice Skating. (University Circle)
  • Amish country.
  • Horseback Riding

Shopping:
  • Legacy Village is an outdoor mall in the Jewish community.
  • Pinecrest is a new outdoor mall and is a great place to walk around. Graeter's has Star-K parve sorbet and Star-D ice cream. Pinstripes has bocce and bowling and games are just $1 for the last hour of each day. Silverspot is an upscale movie theatre.
  • Beachwood Place is an indoor mall in the Jewish community.
  • Eton is a high-end strip-mall near the Jewish community.
  • Crocker Park is an excellent outdoor mall on the west-side of town. There is a Hyatt Place here as well.
  • West Side Market is a world-renown indoor food and produce market in Ohio City west of downtown (Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday)

Hiking/Nature:
  • Download Aaron's (fantastic) 2023 Guide to Cleveland by clicking here
  • Cuyahoga Valley National Park and Train rides.
  • The "Emerald Necklace" is a chain of green Metroparks with great hiking that surrounds Cleveland.  October should be perfect to view the fall foliage.
  • Acacia reservation is in the jewish community.
  • Squire's Castle in the North Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.
  • Squaw Rock in South Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.

Nearby Cities:
  • Erie/Presque Isle Beach (1.5 hours)
  • Pittsburgh (2 hours)
  • Columbus (2 hours)
  • Detroit (2.5 hours)
  • Niagara Falls (3 hours)
  • Toronto (4.5 hours)
  • Chicago (6 hours)
  • Baltimore (6 hours)
  • NYC (7 hours)
  • Lakewood (8 hours)

Microbreweries:
  • Bottlehouse microbrewery
  • Great Lakes Brewpub and Brewery in Ohio City
  • Market Garden Brewery in Ohio City
  • Midnight Owl Brewing in Shaker Heights next to Mendel's BBQ
  • Crooked Pecker Brewing Company in Chagrin Falls
  • And many, many more.

Kosher Eateries:
http://www.clevelandkosher.org/establishments

Delivery is available on:
UberEats: Arova, Grand Coffee, Jade, Kantina, Mamilla, Mendel's
Doordash: Arova, Grand Coffee, Grove Pizza, Grove Sushi, Issi's, Jade, Le Chaim, Mamilla, Mendel's, Tibors
Grubhub : Arova, Grand Coffee, Kantina, Mamilla, Mendel's

Arova (South Euclid, 5/10 DD stars)
Good shnitzel, mediocre Shwarma and Falafel.

Jade (South Euclid):
Chinese and sushi under new ownership and chefs
https://www.jadechinesekitchen.com/

Kantina (Cleveland uptown/University Circle, 7/10 DD stars): Burger, Kantina Burger, Shnitzel, Shnitzel fried steak , Cookie Dough Shake, Buffalo chicken, Felafel, and Fries are all very inexpensive.
https://www.kantinakatering.com/new-page

Kinneret Pizza (Cleveland Heights 7/10 DD stars)
Very good plain pizza, order with extra sauce and well done. Avoid the toppings. 
Very good homemade onion rings and cauliflower. Good spicy fries and decent Eggplant Parmesan.  Delicious soft serve Ice Cream with 8 flavor choices.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kinneret-Kosher-Pizza-Restaurant/100882353290369

Grand Coffee (Cleveland Heights, Coffee and milkshakes 9/10 DD stars) sells excellent C"Y coffee, ice cream, and milkshakes, now located next to Grand Judaica.

Grove Market (South Euclid, pizza and sushi 8/10 DD stars)
Cleveland's first full scale kosher grocery and takeout complete with pizza, sushi, and much more.

Issi's Pizza (South Euclid, 6/10 DD stars)
The pizza is made in a conveyor belt oven. You'll either like it or hate it.  Try the felafel pizza with extra sauce and request it made well done.
http://issisplace.com/

Le Chaim (South Euclid, burgers, Israeli food, and Mexican food on some nights 7/10 DD stars)
Very good poppers, poppers hoagie, burgers, kebabs, and Israeli food.
Excellent Mexican food on select Tuesdays.

Mamilla (Downtown)
Newly opened in the Arcade/food court of the Hyatt Regency. Vegetarian menu of felafel, sabich, and soups.
Open weekdays from 10am-3pm.

Mendel's KC BBQ (Shaker Heights, 9/10 DD stars)
A game changer for Cleveland. Excellent BBQ that happens to be kosher.
Don't miss the burnt ends, back ribs, dino ribs, steak, KC burger, fries bowls, pastrami sandwich, smoked fried chicken sandwich, smash burger, or Pecan Pie!

Mendel's Deli and Dogs (Downtown, 9/10 DD stars)
Excellent food options at the Guardians baseball games, located behind section 156.

Milky Way/Bagel Shoppe (South Euclid 5/10 DD stars)
Pizza store, merged with Bagel Shoppe.
https://milkywaycle.com/

Ungers Bakery & Kosher Market (Cleveland Heights, donuts are 10/10 DD stars-the best parve kosher donuts in the world)
My favorites are the custard and cinnamon donuts. Others love the Miami and glazed donuts. Apple fritters are incredible.
Full kosher grocery store.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ungers-Kosher-Bakery-Food-Shop/115920261762129

Chocolate Emporium (South Euclid) has chocolates made on-site as well as other gifts.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ChocolateEmporiumCLE/about

Tibor's (Beachwood) has a deli with lots of prepared food and good spicy homemade salami and beef jerky.  They also carry bakery goods from Ungers. Shabbos takeout is available here as is a small grocery section.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tibors-Kosher-Meats/126208197434026

Boris' (University Heights) is another butcher/deli with small kosher grocery that also carries Pride of the Farm Ice Cream.
http://www.boriskosher.com/

Dave's (Cleveland Heights) is a grocery with a kosher section and C"Y milk.

Heinen's (University Heights) has a great kosher grocery section with packaged prepared meals. P"Y bagels also available in the bakery section.

Costco (Mayfield Heights) has a large kosher section.

Mitchell's Ice Cream (Beachwood and Ohio City, Considered some of the finest ice cream in the world. Cholov Stam under Quality Kosher, which is not a universally accepted hashgocha, so AYLOR).

Graeter's Ice Cream (Pinecrest, Parve and Cholov Stam. Ice creams are under the Star-K, but the actual store is not.).

Speedway (University Heights) Kosher certified slurpees.

Caterers include:
Davis
PKC

Cholov Stam certified establishments include:
Goldieís Donuts and Bakery
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts
Nothing Bundt Cakes
NuBeigel
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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #4340 on: June 19, 2023, 06:33:51 PM »
And Milky Way and Ungers.
Clarification: they are open. However they are not CS

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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #4341 on: June 21, 2023, 03:16:24 PM »
NuBeigel, I think it's chalav Stam.


they have vegan cream cheese, tuna etc. so if you only eat chalav yisroel, there's always something.  Best bagels in Cleveland

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« Reply #4342 on: June 21, 2023, 03:22:10 PM »
they have vegan cream cheese, tuna etc. so if you only eat chalav yisroel, there's always something.  Best bagels in Cleveland
Personally I haven't been.

The owner consulted with me extensively over the course of a year, for which I donated many hours of my time as I made an open offer to anyone wanting to open a food establishment in CLE. Then he changed course and decided to make it C"S lehachis so that he doesn't have the C"Y crowd and it could be more "inclusive" to the greater community.

After I made an offer to subsidize the C"Y cost, he bizarrely became downright nasty to me.

For what it's worth, Heinen's has delicious Pas Yisroel bagels in their bakery section, and 4 bagels are just $3.80. That's my go-to since Milky Way murdered the Bagel Shoppe bagels.
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« Reply #4343 on: June 21, 2023, 03:35:20 PM »
Personally I haven't been.

The owner consulted with me extensively over the course of a year, for which I donated many hours of my time as I made an open offer to anyone wanting to open a food establishment in CLE. Then he changed course and decided to make it C"S lehachis so that he doesn't have the C"Y crowd and it could be more "inclusive" to the greater community.

After I made an offer to subsidize the C"Y cost, he bizarrely became downright nasty to me.

For what it's worth, Heinen's has delicious Pas Yisroel bagels in their bakery section, and 4 bagels are just $3.80. That's my go-to since Milky Way murdered the Bagel Shoppe bagels.
I havenít either and I eat CĒS, and nobody I know has either been there. Makes me wonder how itís going for him. People with an attitude like that arenít usually matzliach.
Milky Way bagels are awesome!

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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #4344 on: June 21, 2023, 03:36:52 PM »
I havenít either and I eat CĒS, and nobody I know has either been there. Makes me wonder how itís going for him. People with an attitude like that arenít usually matzliach.
Milky Way bagels are awesome!
Probably going fine. He made it perfectly clear that he doesn't want or need the frum crowd.

Milky Way bagels were delicious under the Bagel Shoppe. Now they've gotten worse, pricier, and with bad service since Ben left. Heinen's is the way to go IMHO, though MW isn't a bad option to have I guess.
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« Reply #4345 on: June 21, 2023, 04:09:04 PM »
Probably going fine. He made it perfectly clear that he doesn't want or need the frum crowd.

Milky Way bagels were delicious under the Bagel Shoppe. Now they've gotten worse, pricier, and with bad service since Ben left. Heinen's is the way to go IMHO, though MW isn't a bad option to have I guess.
Heinens has their own bagels that are Pas Yisroel or they just sell a brand that is?

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« Reply #4346 on: June 21, 2023, 04:12:42 PM »
Heinens has their own bagels that are Pas Yisroel or they just sell a brand that is?
They're packaged in Heinen's bags and sold from their bakery in the back. They're KVH-Pas Yisroel, so maybe @moko can explain how that works.

Delicious and very inexpensive bagels in several flavor options (Plain, everything, blueberry, sesame, onion, whole wheat, etc).
Beware of Asiago, which is in the same location with no hechsher.
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« Reply #4347 on: June 21, 2023, 04:17:04 PM »
They're packaged in Heinen's bags and sold from their bakery in the back. They're KVH-Pas Yisroel, so maybe @moko can explain how that works.

Delicious and very inexpensive bagels in several flavor options (Plain, everything, blueberry, sesame, onion, whole wheat, etc).
Beware of Asiago, which is in the same location with no hechsher.
Heinens stickers.
Not heinens bags.


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« Reply #4348 on: June 21, 2023, 04:18:58 PM »
Heinens stickers.
Not heinens bags.

Cool! Iíll have to try that out. Thanks!

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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #4349 on: June 21, 2023, 04:23:49 PM »
Heinens stickers.
Not heinens bags.


Nice. What are the logistics of that operation? Do they get them pre-bagged fresh? Or frozen?

Surprising how few people know about it and that they don't carry them in the kosher section.
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« Reply #4350 on: June 21, 2023, 10:33:18 PM »
Nice. What are the logistics of that operation? Do they get them pre-bagged fresh? Or frozen?

Surprising how few people know about it and that they don't carry them in the kosher section.
I never knew about it. What hechsher is kvh?

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« Reply #4351 on: June 21, 2023, 10:34:01 PM »
Probably going fine. He made it perfectly clear that he doesn't want or need the frum crowd.

Milky Way bagels were delicious under the Bagel Shoppe. Now they've gotten worse, pricier, and with bad service since Ben left. Heinen's is the way to go IMHO, though MW isn't a bad option to have I guess.
I was never a fan of bagel shoppe bagels but at least they were edible. Why doesn't milky way learn how to make decent bagels??

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« Reply #4352 on: June 21, 2023, 10:34:20 PM »
I never knew about it. What hechsher is kvh?
@moko
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« Reply #4353 on: June 21, 2023, 10:34:51 PM »
I was never a fan of bagel shoppe bagels but at least they were edible. Why doesn't milky way learn how to make decent bagels??
I have a feeling they no longer make them.
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« Reply #4355 on: June 21, 2023, 10:38:22 PM »
Personally I haven't been.

The owner consulted with me extensively over the course of a year, for which I donated many hours of my time as I made an open offer to anyone wanting to open a food establishment in CLE. Then he changed course and decided to make it C"S lehachis so that he doesn't have the C"Y crowd and it could be more "inclusive" to the greater community.

After I made an offer to subsidize the C"Y cost, he bizarrely became downright nasty to me.

For what it's worth, Heinen's has delicious Pas Yisroel bagels in their bakery section, and 4 bagels are just $3.80. That's my go-to since Milky Way murdered the Bagel Shoppe bagels.
Interesting. I guessed that was the reason he didn't make them CY. Incidentally, I have gone occasionally (location is a pain for me), and the bagels are excellent. Fwiw he's always been friendly to me when I was there. I never got the feeling that the CY community (for lack of a better term) wasn't welcome. I don't blame you for having the feelings you do based on your experience.

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« Reply #4357 on: June 21, 2023, 10:41:04 PM »
I have a feeling they no longer make them.
Don't they realize they could actually attract customers if they had even decent bagels? Right now I'd rather get "bagels" (ie bagel shaped rolls) at the grove than their bagels.

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« Reply #4358 on: June 21, 2023, 10:44:07 PM »
Don't they realize they could actually attract customers if they had even decent bagels? Right now I'd rather get "bagels" (ie bagel shaped rolls) at the grove than their bagels.
Can say the same for the rest of their food, no?
Easily the worst plain pizza out of the 4 options here.

Heinens bagels are much better and cheaper than Grove or Ungers bagels. I'm sure they don't compare to NB though. But they are less than half the price and far more convenient.
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« Reply #4359 on: June 21, 2023, 10:46:13 PM »


Can say the same for the rest of their food, no?
Easily the worst plain pizza out of the 4 options here.

Lol not gonna bother debating a native clevelander about issis and kinneret
But yes, a distant 2nd behind grove