Poll

Did Bidens response to the crisis in the Middle East change your view about him?

Yes, I support him now
15 (27.3%)
More favorable but I still do not support him
30 (54.5%)
No, my view hasn't changed
6 (10.9%)
Less favorable, he's less than he should
2 (3.6%)
Other, please specify below
2 (3.6%)

Total Members Voted: 55

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Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« on: October 13, 2023, 12:59:37 PM »
Have you seen any of Biden remarks on the situation? What are your thoughts? What about the action he's taking to support israel?

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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2023, 01:02:59 PM »
Have you seen any of Biden remarks on the situation? What are your thoughts? What about the action he's taking to support israel?

Please vote.

What does “I support him” mean? His position on Israel? His current term as president? His prospects as a viable candidate for the next term?

Besides, his position could turn on a dime
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2023, 01:09:07 PM »
What does “I support him” mean? His position on Israel? His current term as president? His prospects as a viable candidate for the next term?
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2023, 02:00:02 PM »
Many here misread Biden. I know exactly how he feels.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2023, 02:04:30 PM »
Many here misread Biden. I know exactly how he feels.

Just because I’m surprised by his position doesn’t mean I wasn’t reading him correctly all along.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2023, 02:08:53 PM »
Just because I’m surprised by his position doesn’t mean I wasn’t reading him correctly all along.
Why were you surprised? G-d forbid if Iran or anyone else would now attack Israel. You will see a response like we have seen on 9/11.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2023, 02:30:00 PM »
Why were you surprised? G-d forbid if Iran or anyone else would now attack Israel. You will see a response like we have seen on 9/11.

Because I didn't expect it to be as strong. I am convinced (as I heard Jonathan Pollard suggest on a recent interview) that once Israel enters Gaza the Biden administration will soften and start to talk about restraint and ceasefire, and their statements were so strong that they'll have to pretzel to roll back unequivocal support.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2023, 02:33:46 PM »
...Israel enters Gaza the Biden administration will soften and start to talk about restraint and ceasefire,
Of course they will. Restraint once the death count goes up and ceasefire when it drags on.

World opinion will also change. Don't take as a sign that everyone is turning against Israel.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2023, 02:35:43 PM »
Of course they will. Restraint once the death count goes up and ceasefire when it drags on.

World opinion will also change. Don't take as a sign that everyone is turning against Israel.

I'm not, just like I don't take Biden's current statements without a kilo of salt, and why my first comment in this thread is uneasy about suggesting "I support Biden".

US support is vital and appreciated, but they have their own interests and priorities at heart that aren't always aligned with Israel's.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2023, 02:40:57 PM »
US support is vital and appreciated, but they have their own interests and priorities at heart that aren't always aligned with Israel's.
I am sure you agree that a strong democracy in the region is in the best interest of the US.

Biden knows as well as anyone that Hamas must be eliminated as much as possible. That is a US interest.
 
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2023, 02:45:21 PM »
Of course they will. Restraint once the death count goes up and ceasefire when it drags on.

World opinion will also change. Don't take as a sign that everyone is turning against Israel.
That is the key, and also the predicament.
Take decisive and aggressive action now while support is there, but then risk losing said support.
Show restraint and move slowly? support will fade anyway with time and objectives may not be completed.
Besides, dragging on in general will only cause casualties to mount on each side.

Does any other country have to reckon with this concept when just trying to keep their people safe?

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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2023, 04:34:31 PM »
[[Insert Mark Levin 770WABC Response]]

he was very patriotic but no where near other presidents in same situations, no mention of Iran, no threat to Hamas, terrible things took place like never before and we will give Israel what they ask for

https://open.spotify.com/embed/episode/35C7RhGwj0GYurRMiNocNb?utm_source=generator
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2023, 04:41:17 PM »
[[Insert Mark Levin]]
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2023, 05:28:19 PM »
If he continues his support at the same level...I would def have tovote for him as hakaras hatov, and I think most frum yideden would do the same... That doesntmean that we agree with anything else he does.

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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2023, 02:18:46 PM »
[[Insert Mark Levin 770WABC Response]]

he was very patriotic but no where near other presidents in same situations, no mention of Iran, no threat to Hamas, terrible things took place like never before and we will give Israel what they ask for

https://open.spotify.com/embed/episode/35C7RhGwj0GYurRMiNocNb?utm_source=generator
This guy is wilfully stupid! I say wilfully because i can't believe he actually has such a low IQ.

I started listening to the podcast because i wanted to hear what other presidents did in the past. I couldn't let myself to continue listening to the nonsense and stupidity coming out of his mouth.

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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2023, 02:56:25 PM »
The shtick that these right wing talk show'ers come up with is downright torture listening to.

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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2023, 03:22:49 PM »
The shtick that these right wing talk show'ers come up with is downright torture listening to.
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Levin wrote on X, "CNN is true to form, an American propaganda operation for the Hamas terrorists. Indeed, that is the role most American and European media play."

Not sure who is worse, him or BS.
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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2023, 08:26:57 PM »
Not sure how anyone can watch FOX anymore. All they try and do is pin this whole thing on the US. It isn't some peon reporter it is their top guns.

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Re: Poll: Bidens response/handling of current crisis in Israel
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2023, 01:51:48 AM »
If he continues his support at the same level...I would def have to vote for him as hakaras hatov, and I think most frum yidden would do the same... That doesnt mean that we agree with anything else he does.
big IF