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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.

Mileage Expiration
Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity. If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #200 on: September 06, 2016, 10:53:11 AM »
Yup

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #201 on: September 06, 2016, 11:10:41 AM »
Use their shopping site.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #202 on: September 06, 2016, 11:19:25 AM »
Use their shopping site.
Does that extend the lifetime of the miles or are you suggesting I should buy something with the miles ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #203 on: September 06, 2016, 11:40:23 AM »
Just to extend the life. Buy something cheap.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #204 on: September 06, 2016, 02:03:46 PM »
Just to extend the life. Buy something cheap.
Thanx

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #205 on: September 06, 2016, 02:20:41 PM »
Use their shopping site.
I don't think that'll do. Do you have experience otherwise?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #206 on: September 06, 2016, 02:25:10 PM »
Any activity isn't good enough? Sorry if I gave misinformation.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #207 on: September 06, 2016, 02:27:29 PM »
Oy I'm sorry. Miles and More is different.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/10/17/lufthansa-miles-expire/
Sorry for posting outside site. That's what Google cane up with.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #208 on: September 07, 2016, 11:04:38 AM »
Is 55k an amount that I can get an award ticket USA europe ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #209 on: September 07, 2016, 11:27:28 AM »
Is 55k an amount that I can get an award ticket USA europe ?
Yep. 52K OW in J.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #210 on: September 07, 2016, 01:10:38 PM »
Yep. 52K OW in J.
Or TLV-NYC 52k OW J with Israeli address on file.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #211 on: September 07, 2016, 02:16:11 PM »
Or TLV-NYC 52k OW J with Israeli address on file.
Does Israeli address help for nyc europe or opposite ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #212 on: September 07, 2016, 02:27:44 PM »
Does Israeli address help for nyc europe or opposite ?
No

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #213 on: September 07, 2016, 05:13:31 PM »
If an LX business flight is available, would  it also be bookable through United ?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #214 on: September 07, 2016, 05:15:53 PM »
If an LX business flight is available, would  it also be bookable through United ?
yes if saver is available

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #215 on: September 07, 2016, 05:57:15 PM »
If an LX business flight is available, would  it also be bookable through United ?
M&M has much better availability on their own partners than what they open for *A.

So the answer to your question is, usually not.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #216 on: September 07, 2016, 08:29:13 PM »
M&M has much better availability on their own partners than what they open for *A.

So the answer to your question is, usually not.
That is so true, M&M has tons of options and nothing showing with *A.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #217 on: September 08, 2016, 09:20:40 AM »


Quote from: eli1571 link=topic=45951.msg1551729#msg1551729 date=1473172659
Got 55k expiring end of September
[/quote
  Thinking about booking a ticket for a random date a few months out and then changing the date, what are the fees for changing an award ticket date ?

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« Reply #218 on: September 08, 2016, 12:44:41 PM »

[quote author=eli1571 link=topic=45951.msg1551729#msg1551729 date=1473172659
Got 55k expiring end of September
  Thinking about booking a ticket for a random date a few months out and then changing the date, what are the fees for changing an award ticket date ?
50 EUR. Per passenger.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #219 on: September 08, 2016, 01:58:56 PM »
50 EUR. Per passenger.
Thanx. Any difference economy or business ?