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-The Lufthansa Premier Miles & More World MasterCard
You can enroll in the Miles & More program here.

US to Israel: For departures from the USA nonstop to Tel Aviv: 80K coach, 135K business. For departures from the USA to Tel Aviv via Europe: 100K coach, 185K business, 290K first. For departures from Israel to the USA nonstop or via Europe for Miles & More accounts with an Israeli address on file: 60K coach, 105K business, 170K first.

The card has no foreign exchange fees.
Lufthansa miles have a few sweet uses:

3 one-way domestic first class flights on United:
You can fly on Star Alliance partner United in domestic first class for just 17,000 miles each way with no fuel surcharges.  All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.  Plus you can still order hot kosher meals between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco in business class.  United charges 25,000 of their own miles each way for these seats, so youíll save 8,000 miles each way via Lufthansa. Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.

Remember to book one-way flights as a round-trip business class is 35,000 but they charge half the price and round down for one-way so itís only 17,000 each way.

4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles.

Business class to Europe:

Business class to Europe is 52,000 miles each way and there are no fuel surcharges on Lot Polish which flies 787s with an excellent lie-flat business class to Warsaw. (Note that United.com canít search for LOT Polish flights if you use that to search for Star Alliance awards).
Availability is excellent.

Hawaii:

Business class to Hawaii (including lie-flat seats on flights from Houston and Newark) is just 35,000 miles each way when booked with Lufthansa miles flying on United with no fuel surcharges.  Thatís a 10,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.
Coach is 20K miles each way, a 5,000 mile savings on a round-trip flight compared to using United miles.

Israel based account:
If your Lufthansa account is registered with an Israeli address then you can book tickets from Israel using the much cheaper Europe award rates.  A flight from Israel to the US will be prices like a flight from Europe to the US. (now must call to get this rate)

Other uses:
Lufthansa First Class has significantly better availability when booked with Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
There is also much better availability on other airlines like Singaporeís top-notch business class when booked via Miles & More as opposed to programs like United.
Barclays cards can be churned, so you can always start saving up for a dream trip.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #300 on: December 01, 2016, 04:10:38 PM »
Good luck finding nonstop saver in J from EWR-LAX
Comes and goes. Just last week I booked a friends family of 4 EWR-LAX in business saver. 
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #302 on: December 22, 2016, 07:40:10 PM »
I have some Lufthansa miles & more points expiring in a few days, what's the best way to keep them active? Is there a way?
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« Reply #303 on: December 22, 2016, 08:50:23 PM »
I have some Lufthansa miles & more points expiring in a few days, what's the best way to keep them active? Is there a way?
No, you may be able to open an M&M card as cardholders points don't expire but I don't know how that works for you're previous miles.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #304 on: December 23, 2016, 10:51:13 AM »
Transfer SPG doesn't work to extend?

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #305 on: December 23, 2016, 11:45:52 AM »
Transfer SPG doesn't work to extend?
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« Reply #306 on: December 23, 2016, 11:46:24 AM »
No, you may be able to open an M&M card as cardholders points don't expire but I don't know how that works for you're previous miles.
cardholders need monthly activity to prevent expiration.

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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #307 on: December 23, 2016, 11:50:12 AM »
cardholders need monthly activity to prevent expiration.
I'm aware, that's why I said I don't know if it'll work since it's so close to when his points expire.
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Re: Miles and more
« Reply #308 on: December 23, 2016, 12:01:30 PM »
I'm aware, that's why I said I don't know if it'll work since it's so close to when his points expire.

IIRC a phone agent told me 3 months of activity to prevent expiration, and it applies to the whole account, including previously accrued.

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« Reply #309 on: December 23, 2016, 12:09:21 PM »
IIRC a phone agent told me 3 months of activity to prevent expiration, and it applies to the whole account, including previously accrued.
So you just need to just spend on the card for the months before they expire or do you have to keep spending?
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« Reply #310 on: December 23, 2016, 12:30:50 PM »
Seems like if you stop the activity, they'll return to previous expiration schedule in the next quarter. Per https://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/de/nonav/no_taxonomy_simple?nodeid=2552761&size=2&l=en&cid=18002

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« Reply #311 on: January 05, 2017, 10:28:27 AM »
I followed all the steps for the sim card and my miles still didn't post. What could I have done wrong?

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« Reply #312 on: January 05, 2017, 11:48:58 AM »
I followed all the steps for the sim card and my miles still didn't post. What could I have done wrong?
Mine posted within 3 days...

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« Reply #313 on: January 05, 2017, 11:55:56 AM »
Mine posted within 3 days...
its been at least 2 weeks

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Miles and more
« Reply #314 on: January 05, 2017, 11:56:45 AM »
its been at least 2 weeks
Did you add your ff number when you registered the sim?