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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3980 on: May 03, 2015, 05:18:56 PM »
Wife got F/R after spending too much in one day on new Amex Business Gold. She also has a Business Delta and SPG Consumer. We have sufficient income on tax return but nothing about sole proprietor business. We signed up saying we buy and sell on Amazon and Ebay which we sometimes do but in small amounts. She has to fax in tax return which is joint. First time going through this. What does she do now. Business Gold and Delta Business are pretty new. SPG Consumer is almost 2 yrs old.
Send in the returns

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3981 on: May 03, 2015, 05:25:05 PM »
Saw in the wiki about shutting down cards if no documented business income. But are people here saying if you just have a sole proprietorship but nothing about any income from it on a tax return that youll be ok. My total annual income reported to Amex was right. Sorry trying to read this thread on my phone.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3982 on: May 03, 2015, 06:01:48 PM »
Saw in the wiki about shutting down cards if no documented business income. But are people here saying if you just have a sole proprietorship but nothing about any income from it on a tax return that youll be ok. My total annual income reported to Amex was right. Sorry trying to read this thread on my phone.
You should be fine.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3983 on: May 03, 2015, 06:21:32 PM »
B"H they called back 1/2 hr later and said they looked at her whole history and were releasing the F/R. Now Im afraid for her to spend the last $3k she needs on the Gold card. Gonna pay off card first also. Any additional advice on how to handle going forward? Smaller amounts at Target? More amounts from different vendors?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3984 on: May 03, 2015, 06:22:27 PM »
B"H they called back 1/2 hr later and said they looked at her whole history and were releasing the F/R. Now Im afraid for her to spend the last $3k she needs on the Gold card. Gonna pay off card first also. Any additional advice on how to handle going forward? Smaller amounts at Target? More amounts from different vendors?
They just released that FR just like that? You sure it was a real FR not mini FR?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3985 on: May 03, 2015, 06:39:32 PM »
Yeah Amex sent the email requesting tax returns and some other stuff. Then called back and the F/R agent said she didnt have all info in front of her and she looked back at all of my wifes Amex history and was now releasing the hold on her 3 cards and the F/R but we should call the credit line to find out about not having the cards keep being declined for fraud.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3986 on: May 03, 2015, 07:32:09 PM »
Yeah Amex sent the email requesting tax returns and some other stuff. Then called back and the F/R agent said she didnt have all info in front of her and she looked back at all of my wifes Amex history and was now releasing the hold on her 3 cards and the F/R but we should call the credit line to find out about not having the cards keep being declined for fraud.
How much did you spend on that day that caused the F/R ?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3987 on: May 03, 2015, 07:34:48 PM »
B"H they called back 1/2 hr later and said they looked at her whole history and were releasing the F/R. Now Im afraid for her to spend the last $3k she needs on the Gold card. Gonna pay off card first also. Any additional advice on how to handle going forward? Smaller amounts at Target? More amounts from different vendors?
How much time do you have until you complete the spend for signup bonus? It goes without saying that you shouldn't rush it. Spending is smaller amounts is probably a good idea too.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3988 on: May 03, 2015, 07:37:52 PM »
How much did you spend on that day that caused the F/R ?
$7k in 3 targets. the 8th swipe did it

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3989 on: May 03, 2015, 07:59:51 PM »
That's the second time the number 7k in one day came up recently

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3990 on: May 03, 2015, 08:00:51 PM »
$7k in 3 targets. the 8th swipe did it
And that 7k was all on one day?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3991 on: May 03, 2015, 08:01:44 PM »
How much did you spend on that day that caused the F/R ?

$7k in 3 targets. the 8th swipe did it

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3992 on: May 03, 2015, 08:05:32 PM »
If you're worried about the last 3k spread it out a little.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3993 on: May 03, 2015, 08:23:26 PM »

That's the second time the number 7k in one day came up recently
7 is a mispar hakolel, don't read to deep on it :P
In all seriousness there basically are no rules for triggers I don't think 7k is gonna be one of them... Unless someone who can handle one wants to be a guinea pig?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3994 on: May 03, 2015, 08:31:45 PM »
That's the second time the number 7k in one day came up recently
I suspect a conspiracy.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3995 on: May 03, 2015, 08:38:17 PM »
4k in property taxes on a new charge card a risk?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3996 on: May 03, 2015, 08:42:33 PM »
4k in property taxes on a new charge card a risk?
A lot of it probably depends on what you normally do with your other cards from that bank. Overall tho I think since its a legit charge it should be fine.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3997 on: May 03, 2015, 08:54:35 PM »
And that 7k was all on one day?
yes over a few redbirds

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3998 on: May 04, 2015, 10:11:50 AM »
I got two new biz cards (plat and gold).
Have had personal for a while.

I need to do 20k to get the 150k bonus.
And 10k to get the 75k bonus.

All has to be done over 90 days.

What is the smartest way to avoid an FR.

It will all be from normal spending, but how should I devide it up, and pay it up?

Thanks

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #3999 on: May 04, 2015, 10:19:17 AM »
I got two new biz cards (plat and gold).
Have had personal for a while.

I need to do 20k to get the 150k bonus.
And 10k to get the 75k bonus.

All has to be done over 90 days.

What is the smartest way to avoid an FR.

It will all be from normal spending, but how should I devide it up, and pay it up?

Thanks

There is no real way to know the answer just that it probably makes the most sense to not do it all within 30 days and not to do big big spend on a daily basis if AMEX doesnt really know your spending patterns yet.
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