Demolition of Chevra Anshei Lubawitz of Borough Park

[hvaces42]

The developers are profiting off the development, who's profiting off the sale ?

Ostensibly its going to fund the building of the new shul in the basement of the development with a wink and a nod. The board members that voted for the sale have financial interests. The conflicts of interest are clearly there.

[ExGingi]

Ostensibly its going to fund the building of the new shul in the basement of the development with a wink and a nod. The board members that voted for the sale have financial interests. The conflicts of interest are clearly there.

Taking advantage of the state being extra careful not to intervene in religious affairs, to the point that a blind eye was turned on the failure to follow procedures, and allowing the same board to whitewash their prior actions by calling a new "meeting".

AG dropped the ball.

[Yehudaa]

The developer. Bought the property for 3.1 million and will be selling first floor and basement to the congregation for 3 million.

Not commenting on this case as I know nothing about it, but the above alone doesn't mean that the shul isn't profiting or that the deal isn't fair. If the true value of the newly-built space is higher than the true value of the current land+building, then the shul comes out ahead.

The process of one party contributing land and the other party building a new building and giving some space back to the landowner is something that's been done commercially in a legitimate manner elsewhere, in deals that have both parties come out ahead.

[hvaces42]

Taking advantage of the state being extra careful not to intervene in religious affairs, to the point that a blind eye was turned on the failure to follow procedures, and allowing the same board to whitewash their prior actions by calling a new "meeting".

AG dropped the ball.

She was busy persecuting someone.

[hvaces42]

Not commenting on this case as I know nothing about it, but the above alone doesn't mean that the shul isn't profiting or that the deal isn't fair. If the true value of the newly-built space is higher than the true value of the current land+building, then the shul comes out ahead.

The process of one party contributing land and the other party building a new building and giving some space back to the landowner is something that's been done commercially in a legitimate manner elsewhere, in deals that have both parties come out ahead.

Yeah
 Ok.
Right.
Of course.
Wink wink
Nod nod

[ExGingi]

I posted the links. I suggest that anyone posting an opinion should at least read the initial petition. One can then go on to read affidavits, and other documents.   

[Moish613]

https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1770174845621244176

[ExGingi]

https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1770174845621244176

Thanks for posting.

Was said performance bond posted?

As per court proceedings developer had already made unauthorized modifications to the building by the time it was in court, which he was ordered to reverse. Was any of this done? The demolition occurred illegally, and ostensibly in violation of the BD ruling. So even though BD seems to have allowed the development to proceed, it was to be done under strict condition and BD oversight.

Demolishing the building without posting the required performance bond should not go unpunished. And the punishment should not be a mere slap on the wrist.

[imayid2]

Can someone explain in a nutshell what’s going on?

[ExGingi]

Can someone explain in a nutshell what’s going on?

A case of personal greed seeing an opportunity in an ancient illustrious shul, that was in a little disrepair, without a large congregation to support it. 

[Something Fishy]

Putting everything aside, it's a nes nobody was killed during this demolition! See 20 seconds into the bottom video.

https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1770190554208297155

[Dan]

Putting everything aside, it's a nes nobody was killed during this demolition! See 20 seconds into the bottom video.

Nuts!

[ExGingi]

Putting everything aside, it's a nes nobody was killed during this demolition! See 20 seconds into the bottom video.

I guess when it's done illegally, in disregard of law, Halacha and din Torah, public safety isn't high on the list.

It is א ביטערע רחמנות on those involved in this. Let's hope it ends with nothing more than monetary loss for them.

[JMHO]

I guess when it's done illegally, in disregard of law, Halacha and din Torah, public safety isn't high on the list.

The demo wasn't done legally, with permits?

[hvaces42]

The demo wasn't done legally, with permits?

For starters there was no construction fence. Thats the first indication that permits were never pulled. Second, NYC does not allow buildings to be demolished, initially, with an excavator. Most of the building would have had to come down by hand.

[Shauly101]

Correct this was done with no permits on a quiet Sunday morning took some time and then FDNY and DOB showed up but it was too late

[Shauly101]

Let alone the Seforim covered in the rubble

[Just A Jew]

Not really relevant to the purpose of this thread, but seeing the disregard to safety taken in the the demolition of this building, how would anyone trust the developer to build the new building safely?

[hvaces42]

Not really relevant to the purpose of this thread, but seeing the disregard to safety taken in the the demolition of this building, how would anyone trust the developer to build the new building safely?

DOB will be there every day. Stop work orders will be the order of the day. This project will take some time.

[TimT]

Not really relevant to the purpose of this thread, but seeing the disregard to safety taken in the the demolition of this building, how would anyone trust the developer to build the new building safely?

Demolition was done in haste for obvious reasons, now they can take all the time they want to build.