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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3240 on: April 11, 2022, 02:32:42 PM »
This was a function of where you lived and how you define "lockdown." Some states were mostly normal by May 2020. Others are still not back to normal.
yes. Lakewood was almost totally back to normal by then.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3241 on: April 19, 2022, 02:35:04 AM »
See bolded above. Even this leaves the original lockdowns intact. I agree that they should have been eased out of quicker.
I strongly disagree with this.
Give people the knowledge - the medical truth - and let them decide.
In many frum NY communities, for example, there was rampant natural immunity (and deaths) before the government lockdowns took a strong  hold.  Beyond possibly "10 days to lower the curve" there should have been no mandates.  Individuals should have made their own choices.
The patchwork of government closures was political and arbitrary - not scientific.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3242 on: April 19, 2022, 12:42:30 PM »
I strongly disagree with this.
Give people the knowledge - the medical truth - and let them decide.
In many frum NY communities, for example, there was rampant natural immunity (and deaths) before the government lockdowns took a strong  hold.  Beyond possibly "10 days to lower the curve" there should have been no mandates.  Individuals should have made their own choices.
The patchwork of government closures was political and arbitrary - not scientific.
Of course you are totally ignoring this
          Time has shown that the protection from natural immunity wanes JUST LIKE THEY SUSPECTED.

The lockdowns were never about individuals. They were about not overloading hospitals. Some of them absolutely went overboard.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3243 on: April 19, 2022, 12:53:23 PM »
Of course you are totally ignoring this
The lockdowns were never about individuals. They were about not overloading hospitals. Some of them absolutely went overboard.
Because it's FALSE, they were denying that it exists at all, and even when they admitted that  it exists they were saying that it wanes after 3 months. WE were saying that it would not wane until about a year, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENNED!
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3244 on: April 19, 2022, 01:06:37 PM »
Because it's FALSE, they were denying that it exists at all, and even when they admitted that  it exists they were saying that it wanes after 3 months. WE were saying that it would not wane until about a year, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENNED!
Fact check false. They were saying that it was unclear what protection is provided by having had it. There have been plenty of cases where people were reinfected within a year.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3245 on: April 19, 2022, 01:50:41 PM »
There have been plenty of cases where people were reinfected within a year.
Of having had 2 vaccines and 2 boosters.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3246 on: April 19, 2022, 03:32:10 PM »
Of having had 2 vaccines and 2 boosters.
That too. So?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3247 on: April 19, 2022, 03:48:22 PM »
That too. So?
So pointing out that natural immunity wanes is equally irrelevant to the idea that the government should lock down it's population to stop a pandemic.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3248 on: April 19, 2022, 04:30:07 PM »
So pointing out that natural immunity wanes is equally irrelevant to the idea that the government should lock down it's population to stop a pandemic.
How does anything about vaccines show that?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3249 on: April 19, 2022, 04:46:33 PM »
How does anything about vaccines show that?
I understand your view to be that government imposed lockdowns were important and the right thing to do, because it stopped people from catching Covid and dying.
My view is as I said before, is that those at risk should quarantine themselves. And there should be no government imposed lockdown.


Your counterpoint was that the risk group includes much of the population due to age and obesity. 


My response was that in my community, many had natural immunity and lockdowns were particularly unnecessary.  (And especially harsh due to the communal nature of our culture.)

You said that natural immunity wears off.  I said, so what? Vaccines wear off, too.  That doesn't give a reason to lock us down.
I will add that studies done in recent months have declared lockdowns worthless in stopping the spread.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3250 on: April 19, 2022, 07:20:44 PM »


I understand your view to be that government imposed lockdowns were important and the right thing to do, because it stopped people from catching Covid and dying.
My view is as I said before, is that those at risk should quarantine themselves. And there should be no government imposed lockdown.


Your counterpoint was that the risk group includes much of the population due to age and obesity. 


My response was that in my community, many had natural immunity and lockdowns were particularly unnecessary.  (And especially harsh due to the communal nature of our culture.)

You said that natural immunity wears off.  I said, so what? Vaccines wear off, too.  That doesn't give a reason to lock us down.
I will add that studies done in recent months have declared lockdowns worthless in stopping the spread.

They were never about saving individual lives. They were about helping already overloaded hospitals from getting more overloaded.

They may not have stopped the spread but they did slow the spread
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3251 on: April 19, 2022, 09:19:13 PM »
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3254 on: May 03, 2022, 03:32:48 PM »
I tried taking a pic of the physical page but it didn't come out very well, so I found a link to the digital version also

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