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Taking into consideration the situation, will you be going to Uman this year?

Yes
6 (8.7%)
No
10 (14.5%)
Not sure yet / waiting to see how the situation develops
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I wasn't planning on going anyways
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Author Topic: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???  (Read 47124 times)

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #80 on: August 31, 2020, 07:36:45 PM »
keeping a low profile may be a good idea, but that has nothing to do with masks and disease spreading.
masks is a "machlokes haposkim" by the goyim just as well as by the jews. whichever side u seem to take, the anti semites on both sides are sure to take it as a provocation. their lists of nonsensical excuses for their hatred is non ending.
same for all the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hating_Jew on and off of ddf

I don't think "masks is a "machlokes haposkim" by the goyim" at all.
The politicians may debate whether or not to mandate mask wearing, but I dont recall any legitimate scientific side that advocated against mask wearing.
In any case, if you're in a local where it's mandated or advised, "keeping a low profile" includes wearing a mask -especially if you're asked to.

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2020, 07:48:13 PM »
I don't think "masks is a "machlokes haposkim" by the goyim" at all.
The politicians may debate whether or not to mandate mask wearing, but I dont recall any legitimate scientific side that advocated against mask wearing.
In any case, if you're in a local where it's mandated or advised, "keeping a low profile" includes wearing a mask -especially if you're asked to.
u can call it whatever u want, but fact is that about half of US citizens are gonna vote for a man who until basically forced to, refused to wear a mask.
and he isnt jewish.
but of course the jews are to blame, as said so eloquently (spelling mistakes in original) by one of our own:
For hundreds of years jews have been blamed for pandemics and for spreading disease, based on the way certain segments of the Frum communities are behaving maybe there are right.
u may be right that "if you're in a local where it's mandated or advised, "keeping a low profile" includes wearing a mask -especially if you're asked to", but the same would then apply to if u are in a local of "anti maskers" keeping a low profile would require u to remove youre mask.
meaning that being in galus has nothing to do with wearing masks, it just means תתכופף ותחכה עד שהגל יעבור

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #82 on: September 02, 2020, 02:57:20 PM »
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Israeli Ambassador to Ukraine: Bring the attackers of Jewish youth to justice
Ambassador Joel Leon meets local officials, Breslov representatives in Uman, calls for justice after young Hasid attacked.

The staff of the Israeli Embassy in Ukraine, led by Ambassador Joel Leon, visited the city of Uman Wednesday in order to take a closer look at the preparations for the Rosh Hashanah holiday and against the backdrop of the anti-Semitic attack against a young Jewish man yesterday.

During their visit, they met with the district governor, the mayor, representatives of the police, the hospitals and the emergency organizations in Uman. A meeting was also and held with the heads of the Breslov Hasidic movement in the city.

In the meeting with the district governor, it was agreed to open a direct channel between the governor and the ambassador to address issues that may arise during the holidays and the annual mass pilgrimage to the tomb of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov in the city of Uman. Representatives of the Breslov Hasidim presented their preparations for Rosh Hashanah to the ambassador.

Ambassador Leon said following the visit: "We consider it important to hold a meeting with the authorities in the city of Uman, in order to coordinate the activities of all bodies in the city. I asked the city authorities to deal resolutely with the anti-Semitic incidents and bring to justice Moshe Tanzer's attackers."

Following violent incidents in recent days between Uman residents and Hasidim, local police have decided to deploy 500 police officers across the city in order to prevent similar incidents.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/286497

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2020, 08:50:13 PM »

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2020, 11:52:54 AM »
Anyone have first hand knowledge, on the status of the border?!

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #86 on: September 13, 2020, 12:00:31 PM »
Anyone have first hand knowledge, on the status of the border?!
C/P

Askunim are working tirelessly to enable we should be in uman this Rosha Hashanah,

Ukraine officials asked for a list of People above the age of 16 who are planning to come,

Please fill out the form below by Sunday afternoon and continue to pray that we should all be able to be this year in Uman for Rosh Hashanah.

Thank you!
http://bit.ly/UMAN2020

BTW what do DDFers think of filling a form to anonymous asking for Passport information??

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2020, 12:02:11 PM »
C/P

Askunim are working tirelessly to enable we should be in uman this Rosha Hashanah,

Ukraine officials asked for a list of People above the age of 16 who are planning to come,

Please fill out the form below by Sunday afternoon and continue to pray that we should all be able to be this year in Uman for Rosh Hashanah.

Thank you!
http://bit.ly/UMAN2020

BTW what do DDFers think of filling a form to anonymous asking for Passport information??
How about never!

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2020, 01:03:09 PM »



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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2020, 01:12:49 PM »
Anyone have first hand knowledge, on the status of the border?!
there are tens of legal border crossings and hundreds of spots where u can cross illegally.
i personally know of quite a few who managed to get into ukraine over the past few days by hook or by crook

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2020, 01:15:27 PM »
Yup.

If there is a will there is a way!!!

But itís costly....

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2020, 01:23:06 PM »
Yup.

If there is a will there is a way!!!

But itís costly....
2k a head
or risk of being thrown in ukrainian jail

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2020, 01:27:02 PM »
2k a head
or risk of being thrown in ukrainian jail
Care to elaborate.

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2020, 01:39:34 PM »
Care to elaborate.
there are tens of land border crossings. they went from crossing to crossing looking for someone willing to take a bribe. in regular days it wouldnt take more than 1 or 2, but because of the high profile situation, the govt put "watchdogs" at many crossings to make sure the regular guards dont take bribes. u either have to find a weak spot, or bribe the watchdog

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2020, 01:43:01 PM »
there are tens of land border crossings. they went from crossing to crossing looking for someone willing to take a bribe. in regular days it wouldnt take more than 1 or 2, but because of the high profile situation, the govt put "watchdogs" at many crossings to make sure the regular guards dont take bribes. u either have to find a weak spot, or bribe the watchdog
Maybe I should have been more specific, i was referring to legal crossing borders such as KBP.

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2020, 01:43:54 PM »
there are tens of land border crossings. they went from crossing to crossing looking for someone willing to take a bribe. in regular days it wouldnt take more than 1 or 2, but because of the high profile situation, the govt put "watchdogs" at many crossings to make sure the regular guards dont take bribes. u either have to find a weak spot, or bribe the watchdog
Such an authentic way of פארן צום רבי׳ן ;D

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2020, 01:49:52 PM »
Maybe I should have been more specific, i was referring to legal crossing borders such as KBP.
u can make an appointment at a kiev hospital for some type of surgery (dont actually do the surgery ;) )
dont come in looking jewish (passport photo is not a problem)
dont come in straight from israel
ure chances are as high as the IQ of the border agent in reverse order
hint: ure chances are pretty good
i know personally of 1 success, and ive heard there are more

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2020, 01:50:49 PM »
Such an authentic way of פארן צום רבי׳ן ;D
we have been doing these tricks since the zeide yankev and the uncle eisav

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2020, 03:57:51 PM »
there are tens of legal border crossings and hundreds of spots where u can cross illegally.
i personally know of quite a few who managed to get into ukraine over the past few days by hook or by crook
for going in illegal on the way out its a black stamp

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2020, 04:23:38 PM »
for going in illegal on the way out its a black stamp
first of all dont try arguing sense with a breslover on the way to uman,
second of all they can go back the same way