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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1560 on: January 21, 2015, 12:41:18 AM »
I just got my first ticket going 68 in a 50 in Colts Neck NJ what's my best option is it worth hiring a lawyer or just go myself and try to get a plea bargain?

Ticket is $105 but will they try to increase the ticket in order to take off the points?
In NJ they sometimes move the price up for the 0 point reduction. In NY they almost always move the fine down. If you can get there yourself then you can save on the attorney's fee. If they don't offer you 0 points you can always send an attorney later.

So my insurance just discovered a ticket (81 in a 65) from 2012? Any ideas how to get it off
Which Court? Some will let you withdraw the plea, however it isn't easy.

Fyi. I know someone, got pulled over for doing 80 on the Pallisades. Cop was nice and only wrote she was doing 65.
A couple weeks later without doing anything they sent her a plea bargain in the mail.
Plead guilty to stopping/standing on pavement. Max $175 fine and 0 points.
Needless to say she accepted.
Orangetown is so backed up that they adopted a computer system to automatically issue plea offers by mail in order to keep up with the volume.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1561 on: January 21, 2015, 12:42:51 AM »


In NJ they sometimes move the price up for the 0 point reduction. In NY they almost always move the fine down. If you can get there yourself then you can save on the attorney's fee. If they don't offer you 0 points you can always send an attorney later.
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How many points is 18 over in nj
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1562 on: January 21, 2015, 12:43:35 AM »

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1563 on: January 21, 2015, 12:46:53 AM »
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Violations/penalties_pointSchedule.htm
Oh gosh 4 points
I was told by a friend of mine who works in an office with insurance brokers that he heard from them that it is better to reduce to 2 points than 0 because if you reduce to 0 they see it was originally 4 is that true?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1564 on: January 21, 2015, 12:51:12 AM »
Not true. You can ask your insurance company for their underwriting rules.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1565 on: January 22, 2015, 08:29:37 AM »
I got a seatbelt ticket in Israel in the beginning of October. I had to give them my license and passport and so all my info is on the ticket which means in there system. Does anyone know if I must pay this ticket or it's the same as a parking ticket and no big deal?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1566 on: January 22, 2015, 03:20:04 PM »
I just got a ticket in NY for not having registration. There is no fine listed on the ticket, rather I need to go in to criminal court (yes, criminal) in 3 months to deal with it. Anyone have experience with this? Online research shows fines anywhere from $60 to $300 and doesn't mention anything about having to go in to court.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1567 on: January 22, 2015, 03:35:13 PM »
I just got a ticket in NY for not having registration. There is no fine listed on the ticket, rather I need to go in to criminal court (yes, criminal) in 3 months to deal with it. Anyone have experience with this? Online research shows fines anywhere from $60 to $300 and doesn't mention anything about having to go in to court.
do you have registration at all or....?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1568 on: January 22, 2015, 03:48:22 PM »
do you have registration at all or....?
I have registration from Ohio that expired just over 6 months ago.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1569 on: January 22, 2015, 09:17:40 PM »
I have registration from Ohio that expired just over 6 months ago.
I think your up a creak.  Might it be criminal to drive a vehicle without registration? Aren't hit supposed to turn in the plates when it's not registered?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1570 on: January 23, 2015, 11:25:50 AM »
Here's the law http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/VAT/IV/14/401.
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18. A violation of subdivision one of this section shall be punishable by a fine of not less than seventy-five nor more than three hundred dollars, or by imprisonment for not more than fifteen days, or by both such fine and imprisonment except, if the violation consists of failure to renew a registration which was valid within sixty days, the fine shall be not less than forty dollars.
Methinks I might need a lawyer.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1571 on: January 25, 2015, 02:18:36 PM »
I just got a ticket in NY for not having registration. There is no fine listed on the ticket, rather I need to go in to criminal court (yes, criminal) in 3 months to deal with it. Anyone have experience with this? Online research shows fines anywhere from $60 to $300 and doesn't mention anything about having to go in to court.

Here's the law http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/VAT/IV/14/401.  Methinks I might need a lawyer.

Was the ticket yellow or pink?
401-1 not having registration is a non criminal ticket, 512 driving with a suspended registration is a misdemeanor (criminal) charge.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1572 on: January 25, 2015, 04:52:28 PM »
Was the ticket yellow or pink?
Pink. Why?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1573 on: January 25, 2015, 05:01:07 PM »
I got a seatbelt ticket in Israel in the beginning of October. I had to give them my license and passport and so all my info is on the ticket which means in there system. Does anyone know if I must pay this ticket or it's the same as a parking ticket and no big deal?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1574 on: January 25, 2015, 05:07:06 PM »



Pink. Why?

Pink is a criminal ticket.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1575 on: January 25, 2015, 05:30:01 PM »
Was the ticket yellow or pink?
401-1 not having registration is a non criminal ticket, 512 driving with a suspended registration is a misdemeanor (criminal) charge.
Its pink and says "in violation of section 403-1".
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« Reply #1576 on: January 27, 2015, 05:51:03 PM »
Its pink and says "in violation of section 403-1".
You have the best of both worlds. You are in a real court therefore you can plea the charge down. On the other hand it isn't a criminal charge. When are you scheduled for?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1577 on: January 27, 2015, 06:01:19 PM »
April 5th. But unless I'm understanding this wrong, per http://www.pinksummons.com that would only be my initial court date at which I can either plead guilty and be handed a sentence, or plead not guilty and have a court date set.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1578 on: January 28, 2015, 07:50:31 PM »
A friend of mine with a Ukraine license got pulled over on the NJ turnpike going 85 (65 zone) cop came back and asked for English version, when he showed the cop that its also in English, the cop said OK, then the cop came back and handed him a ticket,
When I was looking at it, I noticed the cop put down, driving without a license..
And a $200 fine,
He can either plea guilty and pay, or go to court.. In 2 weeks

The question is, what's his best option, can he just ignore it..
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1579 on: January 29, 2015, 05:32:43 PM »
April 5th. But unless I'm understanding this wrong, per http://www.pinksummons.com that would only be my initial court date at which I can either plead guilty and be handed a sentence, or plead not guilty and have a court date set.
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