Author Topic: WAR! Russia Attacks Ukraine Master Thread (Read 281582 times)

Yo ssi · « **Reply #1720 on:** March 04, 2022, 04:59:12 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on March 04, 2022, 04:36:45 PM

Where's Starlink?

Chow · « **Reply #1721 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:02:18 PM »

Are there any gas stations that don’t use Russian oil?

Mordyk · « **Reply #1722 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:02:42 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 04, 2022, 03:26:40 PM

In a 100 years will history be the US just stood by while so many were murdered?

This didn't age well

Quote from: CountValentine on February 24, 2022, 09:19:45 AM

WOW!!!

yuneeq · « **Reply #1723 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:18:37 PM »

2 views

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1499864267717230600?s=21

yesitsme · « **Reply #1724 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:20:24 PM »

yelped · « **Reply #1725 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:21:44 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on March 04, 2022, 05:20:24 PM

Sounds like Russian propaganda.

zh cohen · « **Reply #1726 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:25:22 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 04, 2022, 10:46:33 AM

Is Ukraine becoming the sacrificial lamb?

Yes, but perhaps not in the way you mean.

I think that the sanctions and military support were never intended to protect Ukraine, but to prevent Russia from
trying this with other counties in the future, by making them pay a very high price for Ukraine.

My view is based on two assumptions;
1 - There is no realistic chance of Ukraine winning. The only way this ends with an independent Ukraine is if Putin backs down.
2 - Putin has put himself into a position where he can't back down.

If these assumptions are true (and I think most people agree that they are) Ukraine does not benefit at all from this outpouring of support.

In fact the more support they get, the longer the battle, the more Ukrainians die, the more of Ukraine gets destroyed, and the end result (a Russian controlled Ukraine) is otherwise the same.

For the rest of the world however, the longer it takes and the higher the price Russia pays, the more likely that they don't do this to anyone else.

yesitsme · « **Reply #1727 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:25:41 PM »

Quote from: yelped on March 04, 2022, 05:21:44 PM

Sounds like Russian propaganda.

TimT · « **Reply #1728 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:26:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499860511290241029

TimT · « **Reply #1729 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:27:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499863812601692161

Dan · « **Reply #1730 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:29:27 PM »

Quote from: TimT on March 04, 2022, 05:26:01 PM

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499860511290241029

This guy is using Twitter for his benefit in a way that I've never seen a head of state do.

I mean Trump tried, but only shot himself in the foot and cost himself the election with his effort.

CountValentine · « **Reply #1731 on:** March 04, 2022, 05:53:05 PM »

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #1732 on:** March 05, 2022, 10:39:05 AM »

Quote from: zh cohen on March 04, 2022, 05:25:22 PM

Yes, but perhaps not in the way you mean.

I think that the sanctions and military support were never intended to protect Ukraine, but to prevent Russia from
trying this with other counties in the future, by making them pay a very high price for Ukraine.

My view is based on two assumptions;
1 - There is no realistic chance of Ukraine winning. The only way this ends with an independent Ukraine is if Putin backs down.
2 - Putin has put himself into a position where he can't back down.

If these assumptions are true (and I think most people agree that they are) Ukraine does not benefit at all from this outpouring of support.

In fact the more support they get, the longer the battle, the more Ukrainians die, the more of Ukraine gets destroyed, and the end result (a Russian controlled Ukraine) is otherwise the same.

For the rest of the world however, the longer it takes and the higher the price Russia pays, the more likely that they don't do this to anyone else.

Keeping up Ukranian morale and hurting Russia will help Ukraine maintain their spirits throughout the Russian occupation, which will likely end when Putin dies.