FBI opens investigation into killing of Shireen Abu Akleh

[CountValentine]

It has been posted that Israel has a good track record of investigating their own. Did anything happen to these security personal that beat the pallbearers at the journalist funeral?

[Yehuda57]

The FBI can and sometimes investigates when US citizens are killed abroad.

OK, name some of them.

[Yehuda57]

Some just don't understand.

They default to why wasn't this or that killing investigate. When you all agree they were killed by terrorist then what is there to investigate?

This case is clear, everyone agrees she was killed by Israeli soldiers.

For the other cases, investigate who trained the terrorists, who funded them, etc.

You keep saying there's no harm in investigating, that's not true. For the FBI to come after the Israeli investigation and do their own one is to say, "we don't trust you." That's a slap in the face, and that's why it's not done for any other ally.

Besides Israel.

Do you see the problem?

[shwarmabob]

OK, name some of them.

It doesn't take a lot to find some of the cases...
https://apnews.com/article/international-news-middle-east-beirut-lebanon-virus-outbreak-4434959ad39d1f2f189eb6442d590930

I recalled bombings in Saudi Arabia .... etc. The list of long.
If I am a citizen of a country I hope they investigate and help when I get into trouble

[CountValentine]

This case is clear, everyone agrees she was killed by Israeli soldiers.

That is the who. They don't agree on things like was there a firefight going on, they didn't know she was a member of the press among other things.

You keep saying there's no harm in investigating, that's not true. For the FBI to come after the Israeli investigation and do their own one is to say, "we don't trust you."

I wouldn't trust them. I wouldn't trust our military investigating our own soldiers. If it was an independent Israeli investigation I would have more trust like our special counsel.

Do you see the problem?

Yes, I see the problem/s you raise.

[CountValentine]

Is it true that Israel is the one who made this news about the FBI investigation public?

[Yehuda57]

It doesn't take a lot to find some of the cases...
https://apnews.com/article/international-news-middle-east-beirut-lebanon-virus-outbreak-4434959ad39d1f2f189eb6442d590930

I recalled bombings in Saudi Arabia .... etc. The list of long.
If I am a citizen of a country I hope they investigate and help when I get into trouble

"BEIRUT (AP) — The FBI will join Lebanese and other international investigators in the probe of the massive explosion at Beirut’s port that killed more than 170 people, injured thousands and caused widespread destruction, a U.S. diplomat said Thursday.

Lebanese authorities had invited the FBI to take part, and it is one way that Washington can help the country deal with the effects of the disaster,  "

The investigated with the Lebanese officials and on their invitation.

Please, if the list is so long why can no one provide an analogous investigation? Upthread there is an article which includes numerous other analogous deaths, none of which where investigated.

[CountValentine]

Please, if the list is so long why can no one provide an analogous investigation?

GS!

[CountValentine]

You have an extremely rare situation when an allied of ours kills one of our reporters. The circumstances are in dispute. 50+ in congress are demanding an investigation.
Show a situation exactly like this that we didn't investigate!!!

[Lurker]

You have an extremely rare situation when an allied of ours kills one of our reporters. The circumstances are in dispute. 50+ in congress are demanding an investigation.
Show a situation exactly like this that we didn't investigate!!!

Roughly 10% of Congress has an issue with Israel? I'm shocked.

[CountValentine]

Roughly 10% of Congress has an issue with Israel? I'm shocked.

I will take that as you know of no other case.

[Lurker]

I will take that as you know of no other case.

I don't keep track of every instance when members of Congress call for an investigation, and I'm not sure how to look up investigations that didn't happen. So no, I don't know of other cases off the top of my head, but I'd bet $1000 and give you 5-1 odds that there haven been multiple instances of 10% of Congress calling for an investigation and the FBI not investigating.

[CountValentine]

I don't keep track of every instance when members of Congress call for an investigation, and I'm not sure how to look up investigations that didn't happen. So no, I don't know of other cases off the top of my head, but I'd bet $1000 and give you 5-1 odds that there haven been multiple instances of 10% of Congress calling for an investigation and the FBI not investigating.

You missed the point. Every time someone posts a case of the FBI investigating the death of a US citizen being killed abroad it is dismissed for not being the same situation. So let's look at all the cases with everything being equal. If this is the only case, then we would have to wait until the next time it happens to see if it is SOP or not.

[Afrages6]

Let’s see how long it takes for the FBI to open an investigation on todays bombings [mention]CountValentine [/mention]

[Euclid]

Let’s see how long it takes for the FBI to open an investigation on todays bombings [mention]CountValentine [/mention]

Were there American casualties?

[chff]

Were there American casualties?

It was first reported that the victim Hy"d was American, but seems that not

[CountValentine]

Let’s see how long it takes for the FBI to open an investigation on todays bombings [mention]CountValentine [/mention]

Is there anything in dispute?
Is there 50+ members of congress and the family calling for an investigation?
Were they killed by an allied of ours?

Maybe @Yehuda57 will explain why these are not the same situations! 

[Yehuda57]

There is an article upthread that has a whole bunch of American journalists who have been killed while reporting. Many by allies.

I'm sure the US would welcome investigations into the hundreds of civilians and journalists they've killed in their wars, including bombing hospitals and schools, and killing innocents with snipers and drones.

We've already said that the US role in aiding the terrorist organizations that do these attacks can be investigated, and that has also been requested by families and members of congress.

[CountValentine]

There is an article upthread that has a whole bunch of American journalists who have been killed while reporting. Many by allies.

I'm sure the US would welcome investigations into the hundreds of civilians and journalists they've killed in their wars, including bombing hospitals and schools, and killing innocents with snipers and drones.

We've already said that the US role in aiding the terrorist organizations that do these attacks can be investigated, and that has also been requested by families and members of congress.

I was hoping you would explain why these two situations were nothing alike so @Afrages6 would understand.

[imayid2]

I was hoping you would explain why these two situations were nothing alike so @Afrages6 would understand.

There is nothing comparable here. There is no bias to accuse Israel of in such an investigation.