ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION

[CountValentine]

What does that have to do with the two state "solution"?

Normalizing relations is part of the peace process.

[TimT]

Pack your bags & leave, you America-hating POS.
https://tlaib.house.gov/posts/tlaib-statement-on-al-ahli-baptist-hospital

[aygart]

Working towards that might be one of KSA’s objectives

If it is then it mean he came to the realization that other steps come first and that it can't even be discussed in the current situation. The whole idea of a peace process with terrorist groups who are trying to derail the process is ridiculous yet that is who they need to make peace with for there to be any two state "solution" that is a peaceful one and not more similar to other purported solutions to the Jewish "problem".

[Sammy82]

I am stating fact. Hamas does not care about their own people. Basically, saying you can get the fuel from Hamas is crazy.

You do realize that Hamas runs the hospitals (and everything else) in Gaza, right?

[AsherO]

Pack your bags & leave, you America-hating POS.
https://tlaib.house.gov/posts/tlaib-statement-on-al-ahli-baptist-hospital

We should send her to Gaza to investigate

[AsherO]

If it is then it mean he came to the realization that other steps come first and that it can't even be discussed in the current situation. The whole idea of a peace process with terrorist groups who are trying to derail the process is ridiculous yet that is who they need to make peace with for there to be any two state "solution" that is a peaceful one and not more similar to other purported solutions to the Jewish "problem".

I don’t disagree, I was just explaining what I understood CV to be suggesting

[ExGingi]

When they start off with the statement, and end off with the disclaimer, it is very different than if they would do it the other way around. They are not idiots. They know how to sow and spread fake news.

Rather than "At least 5,087 Palestinians have been killed in two weeks of Israeli strikes, including 2,055 children, the Hamas-run health ministry said."

They could have (or should have) written: "According to unverifiable claims by the Hamas-run health ministry, at least 5,087 Palestinians have been killed in two weeks of Israeli strikes, including 2,055 children."

But they choose how to present things.

One isn't allowed to scream fire in a crowded cinema when there is none. I think we've had enough with this kind of "reporting" and the FCC should get involved. If there's a disclaimer to be made it must be made in advance of presenting the alleged news.

[aygart]

Normalizing relations is part of the peace process.

What does that have to do with the two state "solution"?

[Jellybelly]

I am stating fact. Hamas does not care about their own people. Basically, saying you can get the fuel from Hamas is crazy.

I can spell it out for you,
when the Israelis buckle to the pressure and let trucks in,
who do you think gets the fuel ??

[TimT]

You do realize that Hamas runs the hospitals (and everything else) in Gaza, right?

He realizes. But let’s appease the world who don’t care about the facts on the ground.

[Dan]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid028AMDqJGYkNcbVyTAvv5s1Bt4LFnP9LeLrEZq46xJV1SMvtkAJbW6AUpMniQK8gtYl&id=100000582117908&sfnsn=wa&mibextid=6aamW6

No hint of shomer shabbos contributing. Which version is accurate?

[shapsam]

What good does it to say Hamas has the fuel when the IDF keeps telling us that Hamas does not care about the people? They are not going to give the hospitals fuel.

IDF is showing you that Hamas has fuel. All the energy spent trying to twist Israeli arms to let in fuel, should be spent putting pressure on Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, etc. to have Hamas give the hospitals fuel.

[AsherO]

No hint of shomer shabbos contributing. Which version is accurate?

They aren’t mutually exclusive. Not defending the author but they’re trying to tell the rest of the story which acknowledges the peoples’ role in protecting Sa’ad.

[CountValentine]

I can spell it out for you,
when the Israelis buckle to the pressure and let trucks in,
who do you think gets the fuel ??

Just like food and water, Hamas will steal some of it.
Why do you think you need to spell that out for me?
You feel it is me in the echo-chamber?

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1716744656178839844

[Alexsei]

Still can't understand the game plan here.

Hamas doesn't begin - or end - in Gaza

[Jellybelly]

Just like food and water, Hamas will steal some of it.
Why do you think you need to spell that out for me?
You feel it is me in the echo-chamber?

I don’t feel it’s an echo chamber,
it more like there’s one car driving down the highway wondering why everyone is driving the wrong way

[CountValentine]

...should be spent putting pressure on Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, etc. to have Hamas give the hospitals fuel.

You think that isn't going on behind the scenes?
Why do you think the hostages were released?

[CountValentine]

it more like there’s one car driving down the highway wondering why everyone is driving the wrong way

I agree. 

[TimT]

Over 150,000 Israelis displaced from their homes in the north & south.