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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9021 on: February 13, 2024, 08:03:23 AM »
I'll float another theory. It seems that the Israeli's were aware of the location these hostages were being held for at least a little while but refrained from doing anything due to the immense risk to both the rescuers and the hostages. Possibly Milies's visit affected the political considerations of undertaking a risk like that.

There were reportedly conditions considered optimal for the operation that they were waiting for. The rescue almost went down a week earlier but was aborted due to conditions not being optimal.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9023 on: February 13, 2024, 10:17:18 AM »
Didnt see this discussed here, but yesterday there was a reporter on reshet beit discussing the hamas press conf response to the rescue op - where the spokes (trying to save face and say that Israel cant win Hamas) stated that these hostages were not held by hamas rather a civilian family...
The reported pointed out that THIS is basically evidence IL needs to take to the world to show that there really is an issue with the concept of Gazan "innocent" civilians, and how fine the line is

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9024 on: February 13, 2024, 10:26:48 AM »
Didnt see this discussed here, but yesterday there was a reporter on reshet beit discussing the hamas press conf response to the rescue op - where the spokes (trying to save face and say that Israel cant win Hamas) stated that these hostages were not held by hamas rather a civilian family...
The reported pointed out that THIS is basically evidence IL needs to take to the world to show that there really is an issue with the concept of Gazan "innocent" civilians, and how fine the line is
Yup I noticed this. The world doesn't give a hoot. They're happy to ignore any evidence of wrongdoing by Hamas and even happier to invent wrongdoings by Israel.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9026 on: February 13, 2024, 11:49:04 AM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/relative-of-rescued-hostage-says-they-never-received-medications/
So rapists & murderous animals are capable of lying ? Who would've thunk.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9027 on: February 13, 2024, 01:36:51 PM »
I'll float another theory. It seems that the Israeli's were aware of the location these hostages were being held for at least a little while but refrained from doing anything due to the immense risk to both the rescuers and the hostages. Possibly Milies's visit affected the political considerations of undertaking a risk like that.
2 separate discussions. 1. How it played out upstairs. (The cause) 2. How it played out downstairs. (The effect.) Unrelated.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9031 on: February 13, 2024, 03:15:58 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9039 on: February 13, 2024, 08:37:55 PM »
https://twitter.com/UNWatch/status/1757151090997371070


I agree with the notion of replacing unrwa. But the IDF's argument has given me pause: if the agency is disbanded immediately, the IDF will be responsible to feed millions of Gazans, creating significant logistical headaches.
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