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Related DDF Threads:
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-Kauai Master Thread
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-Oahu Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3080 on: December 21, 2023, 02:22:50 PM »
Any leads/recommendations on a helicopter tour for today as napali coast is closed for flooding?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3081 on: December 21, 2023, 02:24:08 PM »
Any leads/recommendations on a helicopter tour for today as napali coast is closed for flooding?

We used Jack Harter doors off - if its raining the waterfalls will be cascading off the mountains and will be awesome to see.
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« Reply #3082 on: December 21, 2023, 02:31:53 PM »
We used Jack Harter doors off - if its raining the waterfalls will be cascading off the mountains and will be awesome to see.
Thanks for the recommendation. Do you know if they allow an infant to come with?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3083 on: December 21, 2023, 03:15:19 PM »
Thanks for the recommendation. Do you know if they allow an infant to come with?

Sorry don't know.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3084 on: December 21, 2023, 03:33:44 PM »
Sorry don't know.
Was a free phone call to ask. Unfortunately we gotta pay for the infant.

We ended up booking for tomorrow.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3085 on: January 04, 2024, 02:59:31 PM »
Anyone know anything about the plane tours? They're like 1/3 the price and seem to cover similar area.

I do understand they can not fly as low or slow, but do those benefits really justify the triple price?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3086 on: January 12, 2024, 10:33:07 AM »
For those like @Dan who want to experience Kalalau Beach without the long hike in, here's an out-of-the-box way to get there: Just paraglide down from the cliffs above! Yes I know you'll still have to hike out (assuming you survive), but 11 miles is still a lot easier than 22!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="
i=c8t1vdBqSwzZFiMm" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But after being blown away by what this couple pulled off, I started looking into them and found that they are super hard-core adventurers. Here's the tale of their hike to the highest point on Kauai, after which they paraglided (!) down to the trailhead for a primitive trail that leads to the Blue Hole, the base of WaiĎaleĎale - the place you fly over on your helicopter tour that they tell you is the wettest spot on earth. Yes, there's a quasi-trail to get to the bottom of those falls!

I wish I would have known about it before I went, though it's probably better that I didn't, because my time was limited and it would have been too much to do together with dayhiking Kalalau. It also seems a bit sketchy just to get to the trailhead via roads that make Polihale look easy, and then to follow the unmarked trail through rivers and waterfalls to the end. But if someone is looking for something really cool and different to do on their next visit to Kauai, the Blue Hole looks amazing!

https://alpinevagabonds.com/the-summit-of-kauai-kawaikini-and-waialeale/

More info about the non-paragliding way of getting to Blue Hole:

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/hawaii/kaua-i--2/waialeale-blue-hole-falls-trail?u=i
https://www.summitpost.org/blue-hole/156476
https://epictripadventures.com/kauai-adventures/thebluehole/
https://noahlangphotography.com/blog/weeping-wall-trail-mount-waialeale-blue-hole-kauai-hawaii

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3087 on: January 12, 2024, 11:09:48 AM »
Anyone know anything about the plane tours? They're like 1/3 the price and seem to cover similar area.

I do understand they can not fly as low or slow, but do those benefits really justify the triple price?
Iíve done it. Had the plane to ourselves even though it can hold 6or 8. (Wife refuses to get on a helicopter). Thought it was great.

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« Reply #3088 on: January 12, 2024, 11:11:13 AM »
Can't compare a plane to a heli.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3089 on: January 12, 2024, 11:12:14 AM »
For those like @Dan who want to experience Kalalau Beach without the long hike in, here's an out-of-the-box way to get there: Just paraglide down from the cliffs above! Yes I know you'll still have to hike out (assuming you survive), but 11 miles is still a lot easier than 22!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="
i=c8t1vdBqSwzZFiMm" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But after being blown away by what this couple pulled off, I started looking into them and found that they are super hard-core adventurers. Here's the tale of their hike to the highest point on Kauai, after which they paraglided (!) down to the trailhead for a primitive trail that leads to the Blue Hole, the base of WaiĎaleĎale - the place you fly over on your helicopter tour that they tell you is the wettest spot on earth. Yes, there's a quasi-trail to get to the bottom of those falls!

I wish I would have known about it before I went, though it's probably better that I didn't, because my time was limited and it would have been too much to do together with dayhiking Kalalau. It also seems a bit sketchy just to get to the trailhead via roads that make Polihale look easy, and then to follow the unmarked trail through rivers and waterfalls to the end. But if someone is looking for something really cool and different to do on their next visit to Kauai, the Blue Hole looks amazing!

https://alpinevagabonds.com/the-summit-of-kauai-kawaikini-and-waialeale/

More info about the non-paragliding way of getting to Blue Hole:

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/hawaii/kaua-i--2/waialeale-blue-hole-falls-trail?u=i
https://www.summitpost.org/blue-hole/156476
https://epictripadventures.com/kauai-adventures/thebluehole/
https://noahlangphotography.com/blog/weeping-wall-trail-mount-waialeale-blue-hole-kauai-hawaii
whoa amazing. Is this even legal?

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3090 on: January 12, 2024, 11:13:12 AM »
Can't compare a plane to a heli.
im sure. The plane stays along the shore mostly. My photos from the ride: https://ibb.co/album/48hrqs
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3091 on: January 12, 2024, 11:21:12 AM »
Can't compare a plane to a heli.

@Dan why do you say that? from watching videos, they seem to give similar though not identical experience and with the price being 1/3, it's really compelling.

done both? heard from anyone who has done both?


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« Reply #3092 on: January 12, 2024, 11:23:54 AM »
@Dan why do you say that? from watching videos, they seem to give similar though not identical experience and with the price being 1/3, it's really compelling.

done both? heard from anyone who has done both?
I've gone on plane and heli tours. One is looking out a little window from way up high and one is an immersive experience that is much lower and can easily maneuver to see things even closer if you want.

Incomparable experiences.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3093 on: January 12, 2024, 11:35:26 AM »
I've gone on plane and heli tours. One is looking out a little window from way up high and one is an immersive experience that is much lower and can easily maneuver to see things even closer if you want.

Incomparable experiences.
some of the heli tours even land in otherwise unreachable places

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« Reply #3094 on: January 12, 2024, 11:36:34 AM »
some of the heli tours even land in otherwise unreachable places
Anyone here ever done one of those?
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« Reply #3095 on: January 26, 2024, 03:06:07 AM »
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3096 on: January 30, 2024, 02:56:32 AM »
any downside to doing the late bird option with Blue Hawaiian? it offers a $40 discount over all the other ones, and it's at 3:30pm.

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« Reply #3097 on: January 30, 2024, 10:54:27 AM »
any downside to doing the late bird option with Blue Hawaiian? it offers a $40 discount over all the other ones, and it's at 3:30pm.
It's usually cloudier/rainier in the afternoon.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #3098 on: February 08, 2024, 09:28:54 AM »
IYH, we will be at GHK Feb 16/17. Please DM me if you will be there ó maybe a minyan? Mahalo.

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« Reply #3099 on: February 28, 2024, 11:29:51 AM »