The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live

[jj1000]

yerushalyim only pros no cons-

Way too many Jews. I'd go crazy.

[JEWDA]

Way too many Jews. I'd go crazy.

That's your biggest problem??

[jj1000]

I doubt you'll get many responses in this thread. Most people have not thought about this. There are four basic reasons people live where they do.
1.this is where they always lived and never gave any thought to where I want to live (how most decisions in life are made)
2. I would never leave Brooklyn-it's smelly, overcrowded, loud and there are no gas and trees.
3. My wife would never live outside of walking distance from her mother-it might force her to grow up.
4. This is where my job is


Is there animosity between factions in Cleveland? A lot of politics?

3. lol true,
Another major thing is there are always events going on in the NYC area. As a single person I love living in NY so many people my age and things to do. Also restaurants delivering for free at 1am has come in handy many many times.

Mosdos has some animosity FWIR but nothing visible really...

That's your biggest problem??

Oh true no overnight shipping from amazon prime. Why what is yours? I've only lived there for a few days...

[JEWDA]

 Oh true no overnight shipping from amazon prime. Why what is yours? I've only lived there for a few days...

I lived there for close to 5 years and I tell you as much as I got used to the Israeli attitude it just killed me every time I had to deal with Israelis. And I'm not talking about any major dealings, Im talking about day to day life like buying an apple from the makolet.

[Dan]

I doubt you'll get many responses in this thread. Most people have not thought about this. There are four basic reasons people live where they do.
1.this is where they always lived and never gave any thought to where I want to live (how most decisions in life are made)
2. I would never leave Brooklyn-it's smelly, overcrowded, loud and there are no gas and trees.
3. My wife would never live outside of walking distance from her mother-it might force her to grow up.
4. This is where my job is
Is there animosity between factions in Cleveland? A lot of politics?

Lol, #3 was the reason I broke up with some girls.  I did appreciate their honesty though

[Dan]

Dan, reckon you would have moved to Cleveland if you weren't from there?

I probably would never have even visited CLE. Except maybe to get front row seats to see my sports teams play there for dirt cheap and to check out Cedar Point.

I'd have to imagine if I grew up in NYC that I'd find my way out.  The crime, lack of greenery, noise, bad climate (too humid in summer, typical east coast winters, plus hurricanes/flodding), inconveniences of traffic/parking, corrupt cops, high cost of living seem to outweigh having nice restaurants.
If I grew up in LA/MIA though then you're right I'd probably never leave.

[Ergel]

Animosity between groups in Cleveland?

how long is the commute to downtown?

[Chaikel]

Animosity between groups in Cleveland?

Not a native, but I don't think there is anything major going on.

how long is the commute to downtown?

~30 min I think.

The point you guys in the small towns are missing, is CLE probably had at least 50x more frum families than these other towns. It's a real frum city. Also (and probably partially therefore) the education system is amazing. 3 schools, one right, one left, one center (well, more right center). Not too many "out of towns" have that

yerushalyim only pros no cons-

If you think kids chinuch in Lakewood is messed up, look at jlm. Makes Lakewooders look like Clevelanders.

Lol, #3 was the reason I broke up with some girls.  I did appreciate their honesty though

And the reason I insisted on moving to Israel to start marriage.

[jj1000]

Animosity between groups in Cleveland?

how long is the commute to downtown?

None visible. Everyone really gets along well. If you don't say good shabbos to someone you will get a weird look. Unlike NY where its the opposite.

20 min. to downtown.

[Chaikel]

If you don't say good shabbos to someone you will get a weird look.

That depends on the hood.

[jj1000]

That depends on the hood.

I think we are talking about Beachwood.

[Dan]

None visible. Everyone really gets along well. If you don't say good shabbos to someone you will get a weird look. Unlike NY where its the opposite.

Lol

The point you guys in the small towns are missing, is CLE probably had at least 50x more frum families than these other towns. It's a real frum city. Also (and probably partially therefore) the education system is amazing. 3 schools, one right, one left, one center (well, more right center). Not too many "out of towns" have that

True, I'm sure CVG and BUF are great cities to live in, but I'd start missing chinese food at some point
I do think CLE is the best compromise between small and big city.
There are some 85K Jews in CLE, about 15K of which are frum.

[Dan]

I think we are talking about Beachwood.

Which is where most everyone moves to these days.  Cleveland Heights will be gone in 25 years.

[churnbabychurn]

Lakewood: highest tax rate and a heard mentality.

[Dan]

Lakewood: highest tax rate and a heard mentality.

So why stay?

[churnbabychurn]

We'r part of the herd!...what will ppl say, why did they move, .....

[Achas Veachas]

We'r part of the herd!...what will ppl say, why did they move, .....

+1

[Dan]

Do you live your life for what other people say??

[JEWDA]

Do you live your life for what other people say??

+1 I never in my life heard of that.

[myb821]

Do you live your life for what other people say??

+100