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In general, search on AA.com for award availability.

BA
If you want to book a flight with Avios, it is known from Dan's Knowledgebase that BA.com doesn't show availability very well, but some flights definitely are searchable there. Nonetheless, it's easier to just search AA.com, and if you find a MileSAAver availability, check BA.com to see if it shows up there, too. If it does, book it there. If it doesn't, you can always call up BA and reference the flight you found. Note that there is usually a very long hold time before BA picks up, and they will charge a phone booking fee. If the flight was unsearchable on BA.com, try fighting that fee, but YMMV.

IB
IB availability will not show up on AA.com You can call AA to find IB availability, but it's hard without being able to browse dates and have to ask the rep to check flights over the phone. Searching on Qantas.com will show IB flights - supposedly if they appear there, they can then be booked by calling AA.

OneWorld Explorer [OWE] The OWE has officially been cancelled [4/8/14] as part of the latest AA no-warning changing to its award program. Here's what the OWE looked like:
This is an around-the-world [RTW] award that is calculated not by the mileage cost of specific flights, but rather by the actual distance travelled on your trip. It is especially valuable for flying business class, as the difference in miles needed between coach and business is not very great on longer trips. See this chart to see the different tiers of how many miles it costs to travel different distances. You can take up to 16 segments on a trip, but there are MANY rules to follow when booking such an award.

Be prepared to spend a lot of time when planning this trip. (Personally [@Yehuda], it took 2 months with a few weeks of break in the middle from frustration.) Availability changes everyday, so you need to constantly check back to see if flights you needed are now available. It will also likely require changing your itinerary/order of stops numerous times. An itinerary can be held for 5 days (and can be extended past that on Day 5, if they are willing to rebook each flight for you, getting you another 5 days), but itineraries with IB flights can usually only be held for 24 hours. You will find that you will have to use hub airports since you're limited to OW partners. You will not find a flight from CDG-FCO without either stopping off in LON or MAD - both of which are out of the way. It's unfortunate, as it adds unnecessary distance miles to your trip, but it can be done. Remember that BA flights have high YQ, IB/AB have semi-high YQ, US/AA have very little YQ. (Unsure about other airlines, as my trip was TLV-Europe-NYC, so those were the only airline I had to work with.) You should check flight availability, again, on AA.com but the ticket must be booked on the phone (and they will charge a $25 phone booking fee, but again, try to fight it since this ticket cannot be booked online - although, honestly, by the time you've ticketed, they will likely have helped you out with much more than $25 worth of time). Technically, you can book it with any OW partner, but the odds are you probably only have enough AA miles to book this trip. AA reps definitely know about this award, although most have never booked it before. You will find that after calling so many times, you'll know more about the rules than they do. Once you have your perfect itinerary, they will have to send it to their rate desk to price it out. This can take ~24 hours. Because it takes time, if you have IB flights on the itinerary, they will make sure IB allows the flights to be held for longer than 24 hours, but confirm this with the rep before you hang up. Once it's priced out, you can pay for it. You can use 2 or more AA accounts to pay for it, but they will require each account to have enough miles to pay for 1 ticket. (e.g. If it costs 80K pax and you have 2 pax, they won't ask you to have 1 account with 160K in it, but they will require 2 accounts with at least 80K in each.)

Feel free to contact @Yehuda with any questions regarding the OWE.

« Last edited by AJK on July 27, 2014, 04:45:43 PM »

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #700 on: May 03, 2015, 05:15:19 PM »

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #701 on: May 03, 2015, 06:00:05 PM »
Buy a lottery ticket.
Any other carriers that are more likely to be available?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #702 on: May 03, 2015, 07:23:53 PM »
BA is 35k
AA is 45k

And you can't book it with AA miles by calling JAL or LAN to book it for fewer than 45k? (Or can you not book on Air Berlin through those airlines?)  Thanks for all the help.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #703 on: May 04, 2015, 12:49:14 AM »
And you can't book it with AA miles by calling JAL or LAN to book it for fewer than 45k? (Or can you not book on Air Berlin through those airlines?)  Thanks for all the help.
You can't book through JAL or LAN using AA miles, if you have JAL or LAN miles, that would be a different story.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #704 on: May 13, 2015, 10:54:27 AM »
Looking at CX flights from HKG - JFK tomorrow (cx0846) there is still no availability yet there is showing at least 7 blocked seats on expert flyer any particular reason why they do this
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #705 on: May 13, 2015, 12:54:42 PM »
Looking at CX flights from HKG - JFK tomorrow (cx0846) there is still no availability yet there is showing at least 7 blocked seats on expert flyer any particular reason why they do this
What cabin you looking for.

Below is the flight load.

F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 I4 W6 R6 E6 Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V3 S2 N1 Q0 O 0

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #706 on: May 13, 2015, 12:59:15 PM »
What cabin you looking for.

Below is the flight load.

F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 I4 W6 R6 E6 Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V3 S2 N1 Q0 O 0

I.e. Don't hold your breath.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #707 on: May 13, 2015, 01:27:48 PM »
What cabin you looking for.

Below is the flight load.

F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 I4 W6 R6 E6 Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V3 S2 N1 Q0 O 0
I.e. Don't hold your breath.
truth is, was looking at tomorrow to see if there was a particular pattern, I really need for next Thursday the 21st, in j, and ewr is also fine,
Need to get my father home in time for shavuos :-[
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #708 on: May 15, 2015, 01:38:56 PM »
  truth is, was looking at tomorrow to see if there was a particular pattern, I really need for next Thursday the 21st, in j, and ewr is also fine,
Need to get my father home in time for shavuos :-[
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #709 on: May 21, 2015, 03:05:21 PM »
Can someone add to the wiki how to search for a cx ticket?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #710 on: May 21, 2015, 11:14:52 PM »
Is there a way to book hkg to TLV  in business thru gh Europe for 30k? Which airline and how to search?
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #711 on: May 31, 2015, 05:17:17 PM »
Is there a way to see all direct One World destinations from Singapore?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #712 on: June 18, 2015, 05:03:52 PM »
BA shows LAN award availability for economy, business, first--but their flights are only econ and business: that space in first is phantom space, or just doesn't show up in the right category correctly?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #713 on: June 22, 2015, 01:10:14 AM »
Anybody have suggestions on booking F or J on AA FCO-JFK?

When is the best time to book?
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #714 on: June 22, 2015, 10:38:08 AM »
I have a quantas ticket booked with aa. I need to change the date and nothing is open at the moment. Is it normal for flights to open up closer to departure date? (less then a month away)

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« Reply #715 on: June 26, 2015, 02:48:02 AM »
Is the best way to search QR award space on BA.com?

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« Reply #716 on: July 02, 2015, 09:58:48 AM »
Has Expanded Award Seating Availability for AAdvantage Executive Platinum been helpful to anyone?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #717 on: July 07, 2015, 12:29:47 AM »
Can someone update the Wiki to include CX-F flying options

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« Reply #718 on: July 07, 2015, 01:09:15 AM »
Looking to travel from YVR or SFO to HNG on the 747 CX FIRST (heard its a great experience)
I was told it would cost 67.5 AA miles OW
How would I go about booking this?
over the phone w aa?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #719 on: July 07, 2015, 01:18:57 AM »


Looking to travel from YVR or SFO to HNG on the 747 CX FIRST (heard its a great experience)
I was told it would cost 67.5 AA miles OW
How would I go about booking this?
over the phone w aa?
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Can someone update the Wiki to include CX-F flying options
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