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In general, search on AA.com for award availability.

BA
If you want to book a flight with Avios, it is known from Dan's Knowledgebase that BA.com doesn't show availability very well, but some flights definitely are searchable there. Nonetheless, it's easier to just search AA.com, and if you find a MileSAAver availability, check BA.com to see if it shows up there, too. If it does, book it there. If it doesn't, you can always call up BA and reference the flight you found. Note that there is usually a very long hold time before BA picks up, and they will charge a phone booking fee. If the flight was unsearchable on BA.com, try fighting that fee, but YMMV.

IB
IB availability will not show up on AA.com You can call AA to find IB availability, but it's hard without being able to browse dates and have to ask the rep to check flights over the phone. Searching on Qantas.com will show IB flights - supposedly if they appear there, they can then be booked by calling AA.

OneWorld Explorer [OWE] The OWE has officially been cancelled [4/8/14] as part of the latest AA no-warning changing to its award program. Here's what the OWE looked like:
This is an around-the-world [RTW] award that is calculated not by the mileage cost of specific flights, but rather by the actual distance travelled on your trip. It is especially valuable for flying business class, as the difference in miles needed between coach and business is not very great on longer trips. See this chart to see the different tiers of how many miles it costs to travel different distances. You can take up to 16 segments on a trip, but there are MANY rules to follow when booking such an award.

Be prepared to spend a lot of time when planning this trip. (Personally [@Yehuda], it took 2 months with a few weeks of break in the middle from frustration.) Availability changes everyday, so you need to constantly check back to see if flights you needed are now available. It will also likely require changing your itinerary/order of stops numerous times. An itinerary can be held for 5 days (and can be extended past that on Day 5, if they are willing to rebook each flight for you, getting you another 5 days), but itineraries with IB flights can usually only be held for 24 hours. You will find that you will have to use hub airports since you're limited to OW partners. You will not find a flight from CDG-FCO without either stopping off in LON or MAD - both of which are out of the way. It's unfortunate, as it adds unnecessary distance miles to your trip, but it can be done. Remember that BA flights have high YQ, IB/AB have semi-high YQ, US/AA have very little YQ. (Unsure about other airlines, as my trip was TLV-Europe-NYC, so those were the only airline I had to work with.) You should check flight availability, again, on AA.com but the ticket must be booked on the phone (and they will charge a $25 phone booking fee, but again, try to fight it since this ticket cannot be booked online - although, honestly, by the time you've ticketed, they will likely have helped you out with much more than $25 worth of time). Technically, you can book it with any OW partner, but the odds are you probably only have enough AA miles to book this trip. AA reps definitely know about this award, although most have never booked it before. You will find that after calling so many times, you'll know more about the rules than they do. Once you have your perfect itinerary, they will have to send it to their rate desk to price it out. This can take ~24 hours. Because it takes time, if you have IB flights on the itinerary, they will make sure IB allows the flights to be held for longer than 24 hours, but confirm this with the rep before you hang up. Once it's priced out, you can pay for it. You can use 2 or more AA accounts to pay for it, but they will require each account to have enough miles to pay for 1 ticket. (e.g. If it costs 80K pax and you have 2 pax, they won't ask you to have 1 account with 160K in it, but they will require 2 accounts with at least 80K in each.)

Feel free to contact @Yehuda with any questions regarding the OWE.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #180 on: April 01, 2014, 05:37:38 PM »
Is there anything specific you wish to say?

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« Reply #181 on: April 01, 2014, 05:47:12 PM »
To say? No.

To hear? Possibly.
Last week I set up alerts for LH F and never got alerted when they released seats. Only realized its available when I checked UA.com
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« Reply #182 on: April 01, 2014, 05:49:05 PM »
Last week I set up alerts for LH F and never got alerted when they released seats. Only realized its available when I checked UA.com

EF stopped alerting on *A months ago.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #183 on: April 01, 2014, 05:50:05 PM »
IME for UA  J they alerted me about 15 minutes after it opened up on UA.com
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« Reply #184 on: April 01, 2014, 06:17:19 PM »
EF stopped alerting on *A months ago.

http://www.expertflyer.com/page.jsp?page=star_changes.html
Alerting and award search are two different things. They're still supposed to alert.

UA locked them out of searching space through the EF website.
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Alerting and award search are two different things. They're still supposed to alert.


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« Reply #186 on: April 01, 2014, 07:13:36 PM »
IME for UA  J they alerted me about 15 minutes after it opened up on UA.com
How long ago was that?
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« Reply #187 on: April 01, 2014, 07:16:58 PM »
How long ago was that?
Around July last year.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #188 on: April 02, 2014, 02:22:48 AM »
WATT.
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Expert flyer?

Note: Make sure they operate a flight on the day you're looking for availability. I was once looking for availability until I realized they don't operate TLV-VIE every day!
They don't appear to show this airline. Am I missing something?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #189 on: April 02, 2014, 05:46:09 AM »
after getting 100,000 AAdvantage points with citi AA card, what is the best way to redeem TLV-NYC-TLV. Is the best option El Al? I looked at American Reward flights from their site and they were atrocious, 20+ hours 2 connections :o no thanks !

Also, can I access any lounges if I go El Al route? Mine as well get bang-for-my-buck on that $250 AF!
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #190 on: April 02, 2014, 09:16:21 AM »
after getting 100,000 AAdvantage points with citi AA card, what is the best way to redeem TLV-NYC-TLV. Is the best option El Al? I looked at American Reward flights from their site and they were atrocious, 20+ hours 2 connections :o no thanks !

Also, can I access any lounges if I go El Al route? Mine as well get bang-for-my-buck on that $250 AF!

call AA and ask them to book you on EL AL

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #191 on: April 02, 2014, 09:18:34 AM »
Sure. When you see the dates with the green/blue boxes of availability, you can look on the right side and there should be a drop down for Connections or Non-Stop Only.

Thank you

However I realize now why I did not see that before; for some reason sometimes the drop down box is there and sometimes not

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #192 on: April 02, 2014, 09:27:23 AM »
call AA and ask them to book you on EL AL
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100K won't be enough if you go on ElAl.

You should be booking the US flights from PHL. There's PLENTY of avail NYC-PHL-TLV.

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« Reply #193 on: April 02, 2014, 09:30:13 AM »
There's PLENTY of avail NYC-PHL-TLV.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #194 on: April 02, 2014, 09:53:47 AM »
In J? No.
I don't think OP asked for J.