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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1680 on: July 15, 2018, 08:25:51 PM »
wrongwrong
 correct correct.

It's really weird how ashkenazis think they know our customs. I was in an ashkenazi shul this past Shabbat and the Rabbi starts bashing sefardim that we have no mourning this year. I was going to confront him but my kids were driving me crazy and I had to leave.

Yes we will be shaving, showering and doing laundry. But we still do not listen to music or eat meat or buy new clothes. It's not our fault it falls out on a Sunday.

/end rant
There are Sefardim who follow the Deah that it's only no meat shavua she chal Bo. I think the only difference to what people said is whether it is THE Sephardic custom or A Sefardic custom.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1681 on: July 15, 2018, 08:30:25 PM »
There are Sefardim who follow the Deah that it's only no meat shavua she chal Bo. I think the only difference to what people said is whether it is THE Sephardic custom or A Sefardic custom.
please show me a source. I am very familiar with Sephardic customs and never heard of that. There are many non-observant ones who will eat meat or as @zagguru said yemenites who eat meat. But it is not a shavua shechal bo thing. It is a 9 day thing or not there at all.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1682 on: July 15, 2018, 08:34:17 PM »
please show me a source. I am very familiar with Sephardic customs and never heard of that. There are many non-observant ones who will eat meat or as @zagguru said yemenites who eat meat. But it is not a shavua shechal bo thing. It is a 9 day thing or not there at all.

I think its yeminte custom to only have the week of.  But of the ones who now live in Israel, started keeping the whole 9 days. Its def a very small minority now

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1683 on: July 15, 2018, 08:35:15 PM »
please show me a source. I am very familiar with Sephardic customs and never heard of that. There are many non-observant ones who will eat meat or as @zagguru said yemenites who eat meat. But it is not a shavua shechal bo thing. It is a 9 day thing or not there at all.

Interestingly enough when R' Ovadiah brings down the minhag not to eat meat during the 9 days he brings it down as Haminhag Po Ir Hakodesh Yerushalayim...

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1684 on: July 15, 2018, 08:38:10 PM »
Interestingly enough when R' Ovadiah brings down the minhag not to eat meat during the 9 days he brings it down as Haminhag Po Ir Hakodesh Yerushalayim...

He brings that down with many things that are a prevalent custom now

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1685 on: July 15, 2018, 08:47:48 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1686 on: July 15, 2018, 08:52:12 PM »
please show me a source. I am very familiar with Sephardic customs and never heard of that. There are many non-observant ones who will eat meat or as @zagguru said yemenites who eat meat. But it is not a shavua shechal bo thing. It is a 9 day thing or not there at all.
It's brought down in SA... I have to be Dan Le Kaf Zechut that the Sefardim I know who follow that view are right to be following the SA.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1687 on: July 15, 2018, 09:44:07 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1688 on: July 15, 2018, 09:45:27 PM »
I just enjoyed some delicious meatballs  ;D

I’ve never enjoyed leftovers as much as I did today

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1689 on: July 15, 2018, 09:51:43 PM »
I just enjoyed some delicious meatballs  ;D
Could you do it during Shavua SheChal Bo, or only during a year like this?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1690 on: July 15, 2018, 09:54:24 PM »
I just enjoyed some delicious meatballs  ;D
are you a minor?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1691 on: July 15, 2018, 10:02:26 PM »
are you a minor?

Meaning what?

"The Halachic authorities permit eating leftover meat from Shabbat on Mosa’eh Shabbat, when it is customary to eat the Melaveh Malka meal. With regard to eating leftovers after Mosa’eh Shabbat, different opinions exist among the Halachic authorities. The Hida (Rav Haim Yosef David Azulai, 1724-1807) writes that there are proofs to both views, and therefore although it is preferable not to eat leftover meat after Mosa’eh Shabbat, those who are lenient in this regard have authorities on whom to rely, and one should not protest against their practice. This is the view followed by Hacham Ovadia Yosef, though he adds that minors (below the age of Bar Misva) may eat leftover meat even Le’chatehila (according to the optimum level of observance)"

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1692 on: July 16, 2018, 12:02:51 AM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1693 on: July 16, 2018, 07:40:24 PM »
Could you do it during Shavua SheChal Bo, or only during a year like this?

Even during Shavua Shechal Bo

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1694 on: July 16, 2018, 08:36:02 PM »
Boarding now for my Delta flight DFW-LGA in A will post pics hopefully.... Maybe I should start a poll to see if it will be meat or dairy... :)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1695 on: July 16, 2018, 10:15:20 PM »
Boarding now for my Delta flight DFW-LGA in A will post pics hopefully.... Maybe I should start a poll to see if it will be meat or dairy... :)

Ok here we go from 34000 feet..

First impressions....
Meal obviously is fleishig actually smelled really good.... It was pasta with a meat sauce.... The Corn Salad was decent at best but the bread/pita was excellent the brownie was good too. Obviously dissapointed about the fleishig (Didn't try it because I am ashkenaz :) )

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1696 on: July 16, 2018, 10:16:55 PM »
Ok here we go from 34000 feet..

First impressions....
Meal obviously is fleishig actually smelled really good.... It was pasta with a meat sauce.... The Corn Salad was decent at best but the bread/pita was excellent the brownie was good too. Obviously dissapointed about the fleishig (Didn't try it because I am ashkenaz :) )

Can't post pictures from the air but will try later.... Anyone think it's worth complaining to Delta?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1697 on: July 16, 2018, 10:21:37 PM »
Can't post pictures from the air but will try later.... Anyone think it's worth complaining to Delta?
What are you going to do with 5k SkyPesos? :)

You can't really expect them to be familiar with the custom of Ashkenazi Jew during the 9 days, or even have a clue that it is the 9 days.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1698 on: July 16, 2018, 10:35:46 PM »
First impressions....
Meal obviously is fleishig actually smelled really good.... It was pasta with a meat sauce.... The Corn Salad was decent at best but the bread/pita was excellent the brownie was good too. Obviously dissapointed about the fleishig (Didn't try it because I am ashkenaz :) )

Where is the meal sourced from in DFW?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1699 on: July 16, 2018, 10:37:45 PM »
You can't really expect them to be familiar with the custom of Ashkenazi Jew during the 9 days, or even have a clue that it is the 9 days.
Here we go again :D
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