Author Topic: Which Miles/Points Do You Burn Most Frequently? (Read 6853 times)

AsherO · « **Reply #20 on:** July 30, 2015, 12:59:43 PM »

AJK, I wonder how differently your chart would look if each percentage wasn't based on how many points you redeemed for that program, but instead a product of what percentage of points earned in that program were redeemed. This would to some extent mitigate the issue cited above regarding Hilton.

AJK · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2015, 01:01:54 PM »

If I understand you correctly, that's what I pondered above in response to coralsnake. Suggestions for the #s by which to multiply?

dpk4588 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2015, 01:20:31 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 30, 2015, 12:44:36 PM

But to say you'll save your UR for Hyatt over UA because *generally* you get more value that way is to disregard the fact that each transfer is discrete and must be viewed in and of itself. I understand the purpose of establishing a base line average, but to save them for one partner over the other overlooks that you can judge a single potential transfer on its own merits.

True, UR are harder to come by, and that is my only source of Hyatt. That would be the case with the other transfer partners that down have their own card with which to earn.

But in theory I guess you're right. In a world where I have enough of everything to go around each transaction should be looked individually, but at least in my case, I don't have an endless amount of UR.

twentie4hrs · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2015, 01:33:00 PM »

How do you use so few BA? Not going domestically too much in comparison?

jj1000 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 30, 2015, 01:50:05 PM »

My guess for Dan is 80% UA

CS1 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2015, 02:07:48 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 30, 2015, 12:06:58 AM

I keep a spreadsheet of every trip I take, date, route, miles used, cost, redemption value (based on market price, right or wrong), and CPM.

... doesn't everyone?

do you have the info to make a column next to it of the percentage earned? (i.e. 200K SPG and 600K UA earned would be corresponding percentages/proportions)

dpk4588 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2015, 02:22:12 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on July 30, 2015, 12:59:43 PM

AJK, I wonder how differently your chart would look if each percentage wasn't based on how many points you redeemed for that program, but instead a product of what percentage of points earned in that program were redeemed. This would to some extent mitigate the issue cited above regarding Hilton.

I know you asked AJK, but I'm curious as to what you mean. Do you mean to know what percentage of the UA that hes earned he's redeemed?

yos9694 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:16:35 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 29, 2015, 11:49:29 PM

Also, it seems I've barely touched my SPG...

That's not a conclusion you could draw just from looking at the table though- unless your stockpile of each type of points was equal. If not, it would be quite possible to use up 100% of the SPG points you've collected and only 1% of the UA points you collected and still have the same % in your table. You would get a lot more out of the analysis if you added a column showing used as a percent of collected for each type, and then you could start to draw conclusions about relative value and relative difficulty of accumulating.

CS1 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:31:40 PM »

Quote from: yos9694 on July 30, 2015, 04:16:35 PM

That's not a conclusion you could draw just from looking at the table though- unless your stockpile of each type of points was equal. If not, it would be quite possible to use up 100% of the SPG points you've collected and only 1% of the UA points you collected and still have the same % in your table. You would get a lot more out of the analysis if you added a column showing used as a percent of collected for each type, and then you could start to draw conclusions about relative value and relative difficulty of accumulating.

yes --- that's exactly why I asked this question:

Quote from: CS1 on July 30, 2015, 02:07:48 PM

do you have the info to make a column next to it of the percentage earned? (i.e. 200K SPG and 600K UA earned would be corresponding percentages/proportions)

AJK · « **Reply #29 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:40:54 PM »

Quote from: CS1 on July 30, 2015, 02:07:48 PM

do you have the info to make a column next to it of the percentage earned? (i.e. 200K SPG and 600K UA earned would be corresponding percentages/proportions)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Do you mean have a column showing the number of XX miles earned as a percentage of the total amount earned?

I can provide that if so, but I'm not sure how meaningful it would be because, for instance, UR would show as a smaller percentage because most of my UR have been earned through MS, not signup bonuses.

Quote from: yos9694 on July 30, 2015, 04:16:35 PM

That's not a conclusion you could draw just from looking at the table though- unless your stockpile of each type of points was equal. If not, it would be quite possible to use up 100% of the SPG points you've collected and only 1% of the UA points you collected and still have the same % in your table. You would get a lot more out of the analysis if you added a column showing used as a percent of collected for each type, and then you could start to draw conclusions about relative value and relative difficulty of accumulating.

You're exactly right; the problem is, I don't have data for how much I've collected beyond what I've earned from signup bonuses, so if I provided added a column showing used as a percent of collected for each type, it wouldn't be very telling, as alluded to above.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #30 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:54:42 PM »

Why is it harder to accrue UR nowadays?

AJK · « **Reply #31 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:56:35 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on July 30, 2015, 04:54:42 PM

Why is it harder to accrue UR nowadays?

Chase has become stricter on those they conclude are "gamers."

@Yehuda · « **Reply #32 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:58:58 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 30, 2015, 04:56:35 PM

Chase has become stricter on those they conclude are "gamers."

Do you have personal experience? I've only seen that from the bloggers (who, for the most part, were just pulling data from readers' comments), and I'd like to see a report from someone I actually trust.

AJK · « **Reply #33 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:03:21 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on July 30, 2015, 04:58:58 PM

Do you have personal experience? I've only seen that from the bloggers (who, for the most part, were just pulling data from readers' comments), and I'd like to see a report from someone I actually trust.

Haven't applied for a UR card in a bit; but you'd apparently be surprised to learn that I trust the reports of others, especially when those reports come in the quantity and varied locations they have.

nobiggy · « **Reply #34 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:09:54 PM »

I've had a hard time.

benjie1305 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:20:42 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 30, 2015, 04:56:35 PM

Chase has become stricter on those they conclude are "gamers."

Is this referring specifically to accruing via churning? Or are these "reports" referring to accruing UR on open cards? It sounds like churners as I wonder what issue they would cause for people just using their UR earning cards. Correct me if I'm wrong.

AJK · « **Reply #36 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:23:01 PM »

Quote from: benjie1305 on July 30, 2015, 05:20:42 PM

Is this referring specifically to accruing via churning? Or are these "reports" referring to accruing UR on open cards? It sounds like churners as I wonder what issue they would cause for people just using their UR earning cards. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Churning alone.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #37 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:36:59 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 30, 2015, 05:03:21 PM

Haven't applied for a UR card in a bit; but you'd apparently be surprised to learn that I trust the reports of others, especially when those reports come in the quantity and varied locations they have.

Same. I hear ya. I guess I'll find out myself one day (soon?)

DMYD · « **Reply #38 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:11:32 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on July 30, 2015, 05:36:59 PM

Same. I hear ya. I guess I'll find out myself one day (soon?)

I personally didn't apply since supposedly the crackdown, but I did help a few with applying, and they all had a hard time getting approved for their cards.

lunatic · « **Reply #39 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:20:44 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on July 30, 2015, 04:58:58 PM

Do you have personal experience? I've only seen that from the bloggers (who, for the most part, were just pulling data from readers' comments), and I'd like to see a report from someone I actually trust.

I tried last week... Could not get it approved. They are not budging

Eta: and I am not a big churner by DDF standards, maybe 3 chase in the past year