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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5140 on: October 18, 2015, 03:08:06 PM »
Have a tax return of 13-14k
Fake or real Bussiness? You mentioned BGR card.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5141 on: October 18, 2015, 03:09:03 PM »
It's personal tax return which is what they want
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5142 on: October 18, 2015, 03:10:18 PM »
It's personal tax return which is what they want
So you weren't FR'd on the Bussiness Acct?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5143 on: October 18, 2015, 03:10:34 PM »
You might still pass. 

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5144 on: October 18, 2015, 03:13:50 PM »
So you weren't FR'd on the Bussiness Acct?
dw was initially fr'ed on the brg but then it spread to all of my wife's cards,they asked specifically for the personal tax returns
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5145 on: October 18, 2015, 03:25:19 PM »
dw was initially fr'ed on the brg but then it spread to all of my wife's cards,they asked specifically for the personal tax returns
If it's just personal they are requesting, past reports indicate you stand a good chance at success.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5146 on: October 18, 2015, 03:26:22 PM »
If it's just personal they are requesting, past reports indicate you stand a good chance at success.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5147 on: October 18, 2015, 03:44:23 PM »
I am just wondering why do ppl take such a risk to try to submit the tax returns by a f/r  its alot of pressure and a big risk they will not pass ( and all sleepless nights for 2 weeks), why not close yourself your accounts and reopen it 6 monthes later? Whats the big deal? Am I missing something?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5148 on: October 18, 2015, 03:46:08 PM »
I am just wondering why do ppl take such a risk to try to submit the tax returns by a f/r  its alot of pressure and a big risk they will not pass ( and all sleepless nights for 2 weeks), why not close yourself your accounts and reopen it 6 monthes later? Whats the big deal? Am I missing something?
What's so hard to fill out a simple form and fax it in? Am I missing something?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5149 on: October 18, 2015, 03:47:13 PM »
I am just wondering why do ppl take such a risk to try to submit the tax returns by a f/r  its alot of pressure and a big risk they will not pass ( and all sleepless nights for 2 weeks), why not close yourself your accounts and reopen it 6 monthes later? Whats the big deal? Am I missing something?
Credit card age/new pulls/new accounts unnecessarily/points that haven't yet posted... Just to name a few

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5150 on: October 18, 2015, 03:50:19 PM »
What's so hard to fill out a simple form and fax it in? Am I missing something?
just for the fear you have 2 weeks that they will close you and in fact alot of times I see reported from ppl here that they did not pass it and they closed them so why all that PITA
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5151 on: October 18, 2015, 03:51:35 PM »
just for the fear you have 2 weeks that they will close you and in fact alot of times I see reported from ppl here that they did not pass it and they closed them so why all that PITA
If everything's legit there's no reason for sleepless nights.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5152 on: October 18, 2015, 03:53:08 PM »
Credit card age/new pulls/new accounts unnecessarily/points that haven't yet posted... Just to name a few
right thats a point,if its a very old account you would wana keep that open

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5153 on: October 18, 2015, 03:57:08 PM »
right thats a point,if its a very old account you would wana keep that open
points that haven't yet posted
New account

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5154 on: October 18, 2015, 03:57:15 PM »
just for the fear you have 2 weeks that they will close you and in fact alot of times I see reported from ppl here that they did not pass it and they closed them so why all that PITA
According to a FR rep "99% of FR's are passed".

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5155 on: October 18, 2015, 03:58:31 PM »
According to a FR rep "99% of FR's are passed".
I wonder what the % is on business accounts.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5156 on: October 18, 2015, 03:58:46 PM »
According to a FR rep "99% of FR's are passed".
72.6% of statistics are made up.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5157 on: October 18, 2015, 04:07:46 PM »
wiki says
5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?
Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.
         
anyone with recent experience reopening an old card that got closed by amex by an f"r ?    is there a timeframe for it  ?    thanks
I have been closed down from amex 7 month later opened again no problem didnt need any documents

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5158 on: October 18, 2015, 04:25:16 PM »
$1671.38  ::)
thanks so much for the exact number ::), the q' was if it has to be a real large amount like a few k or even like 8 900 is considered large (I just have no idea what means large spending)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #5159 on: October 18, 2015, 04:26:50 PM »
thanks so much for the exact number ::), the q' was if it has to be a real large amount like a few k or even like 8 900 is considered large (I just have no idea what means large spending)
$800 isn't a very large purchase.