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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1723333 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3100 on: September 24, 2013, 09:59:39 PM »
No need to have them removed from your reports. Chase will let you back in. There is no set time frame.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3101 on: September 24, 2013, 10:35:34 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3102 on: September 29, 2013, 12:30:07 AM »
Never transferred a point in my life.  froze experian and applied for biz southwest, made me unfreeze or give pin, gave pin.  I was declined.  So i unfreeze, got both sw personals, both instantly approved.  Also just changed my address...
And???????
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3103 on: September 29, 2013, 01:51:16 AM »
any idea how i can get my ur from chase after i was A/A?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3104 on: September 29, 2013, 06:58:06 AM »
My wife got AA'd by Chase on Friday.  Exact same thing as previous posters -- 'spending activity not consistent with expectations'.  Her checking account was closed first (got the letter for that already), then her personal CC's all got closed (waiting on letters for those).  Biz cards are still open but I'm expecting those to get terminated shortly.

She did have a checking account open and had ordered Chase GC's on all her accounts, though mostly on the biz cards (which are still open as of now).  I'm 99.9% sure the closures are due to either the checking account and/or the Chase GC's.  There was nothing else suspicious on her account (no transfers, no recent manufactured spending on personal cards, etc) and all her cards were sitting at close to zero balance.

My cards are still open for the moment but I dumped all my UR points preemptively...

MTA: Should also add...about two weeks ago she got 10,000 retention miles on her now closed United card, and right around the same time Chase sent her a 'happy birthday' card from the branch where she opened her checking account....
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3105 on: September 29, 2013, 10:22:06 AM »
How do you get your money when they close your account?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3106 on: September 29, 2013, 10:34:09 AM »
How do you get your money when they close your account?
Checking?  They actually didn't close it immediately, just said they'd close it as of the next statement date.  But if there's still money in there after that date they said they'd send a check.

Bastards are going to take away the $200 opening bonus I got, too, since it hasn't been 6 months yet.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3107 on: September 29, 2013, 10:49:50 AM »
Bastards are going to take away the $200 opening bonus I got, too, since it hasn't been 6 months yet.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3108 on: September 29, 2013, 11:06:47 AM »
My wife got AA'd by Chase on Friday.  Exact same thing as previous posters -- 'spending activity not consistent with expectations'.  Her checking account was closed first (got the letter for that already), then her personal CC's all got closed (waiting on letters for those).  Biz cards are still open but I'm expecting those to get terminated shortly.

She did have a checking account open and had ordered Chase GC's on all her accounts, though mostly on the biz cards (which are still open as of now).  I'm 99.9% sure the closures are due to either the checking account and/or the Chase GC's.  There was nothing else suspicious on her account (no transfers, no recent manufactured spending on personal cards, etc) and all her cards were sitting at close to zero balance.

My cards are still open for the moment but I dumped all my UR points preemptively...

MTA: Should also add...about two weeks ago she got 10,000 retention miles on her now closed United card, and right around the same time Chase sent her a 'happy birthday' card from the branch where she opened her checking account....
It looks like buying Chase GC is not a good idea anymore. should be added to wiki.
Did you go over your CL?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3109 on: September 29, 2013, 11:07:59 AM »

It looks like buying Chase GC is not a good idea anymore. should be added to wiki.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3110 on: September 29, 2013, 11:10:31 AM »
It looks like buying Chase GC is not a good idea anymore. should be added to wiki.
Did you go over your CL?
Nope, never over 50%.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3111 on: September 29, 2013, 11:11:59 AM »
Nope, never over 50%.
You Mentioned something about your checking account, what was wrong over there?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3112 on: September 29, 2013, 11:18:35 AM »
You Mentioned something about your checking account, what was wrong over there?
Easy, I was unprofitable.  I opened it for the $200 bonus, then never used it and just transferred $500 in and out each month to avoid the monthly fee.  So they shut the account down, are going to take back the $200, and then closed my wife's CC's for good measure.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3113 on: September 29, 2013, 11:24:22 AM »
Easy, I was unprofitable.  I opened it for the $200 bonus, then never used it and just transferred $500 in and out each month to avoid the monthly fee.  So they shut the account down, are going to take back the $200, and then closed my wife's CC's for good measure.
Dont think this is the Couse, thousand of people opening account for this reason and not using it, its more Likely the Chase gift cards.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3114 on: September 29, 2013, 11:27:02 AM »
Dont think this is the Couse, thousand of people opening account for this reason and not using it, its more Likely the Chase gift cards.
I believe the checking account initiated the account review, without which the CC's would not have been shut down.  The checking account was closed (or rather, marked for closure) several days before they closed my wife's CC's, and the most recent GC purchases were several weeks old and already paid off.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3115 on: September 29, 2013, 12:49:11 PM »
And thousands of people bought Chase GCs without A/A.
It takes a combination of factors.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3116 on: September 29, 2013, 12:57:45 PM »
Most of the people that lately got A/A'd have Been spending a lot on Chase GC.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3117 on: September 29, 2013, 01:03:14 PM »
Most of the people that lately got A/A'd have Been spending a lot on Chase GC.
Define 'a lot'.  I got $1500 on one of the shut down cards in the last month ($2500/mo in the months before) and a total of less than $2000 over the last three months on the other shut down card.  Did more on the biz cards but those are still open.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3118 on: September 29, 2013, 01:05:06 PM »
I agree with gloreglabert about how one thing can set it off and make them look at you.

Example I had one of those WF prepaid cards you could load with Chase CCs, and I accidentally failed some loads on it, honest mistake, so they reviewed the account standard procedure, but they saw what I was doing with it and I got closed down.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3119 on: September 29, 2013, 01:32:47 PM »
It's all about luck....... I am sure if Chase would look in to some DDF'rs accounts they will not think a min before shooting them down...... they probably look randomly on accounts and when they see GC etc...... they just shot you... you have to play this game safe as well, don't withdrawal your AP in to your Chase bank account. try using AP just for biz. OR personal so you can explain that you are using it for your business OR paying off some bills (they wont like to see all your cards spending on AP) same thing for GW if someone still using it... same for CVS charges you have to explain why your charging 10,000 dollars a month there, so you can or say your buying expensive medication you don't have insurance.. with your personal card OR you are buying stuff for cheap to to flip on ebay with your business card..... spending with both cards is more harder to explain, (though you can explain that you used them for your personal use and then you realized that you can make money also....) and as always mix it with general every day spending.
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