Author Topic: Southern Africa (SA/Zim/Zam/Botswana/Namibia) Master Thread (Read 485801 times)

Dan · « **Reply #1960 on:** October 06, 2021, 11:25:51 AM »

Quote from: sds1493 on October 06, 2021, 11:16:11 AM

Wrt pcr test, there is a place called Testaro on Bompas Rd (so near 10 on Bompas) run by a Jewish guy. Results currently come back in approx 8 hours (although only guaranteed for 24hr)and they're open till 9 pm. R850. I can send you his whatsapp number.
For food in Vic falls area, I would be in touch with moishes. They can have whatever cooked food you want ready and double wrapped to pick up in the morning. Can also freeze and put in cooler box if necessary. For an 1130 flight, you don't need to leave earlier than 0930.
One other newish take out place is Zest Salad Bar. They recently started Chalav options (although not sure about keilim). Next Door pasta is better though IMO.
In LVI, the Protea is perfectly serviceable and great value for points. However, the Royal Livingstone has much nicer grounds on the falls, with giraffe and other animals roaming around.
There is (or was) a small Jewish section of the museum in Livingstone, and a Jewish part of the cemetery.

Thanks! Please PM me his number. Any DPs on how long a test taken at 7pm will take? I wonder if it's worth the savings vs having the sure thing for 2K?

Any recommendations for moishes? Where do I try these pies everyone is talking about?

Have you stayed at the Protea and the Royal? Has anyone stayed at the Avani?

AJK · « **Reply #1961 on:** October 06, 2021, 11:33:44 AM »

Lot of good info here, folks! Appreciated!

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #1962 on:** October 06, 2021, 12:04:04 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 06, 2021, 11:25:51 AM

Where do I try these pies everyone is talking about?

The Pie Works, and FWIU, Segell's also makes. I'd imagine both would be able to double wrap them to be oven/microwave ready. I'd recommend the spicier pies.

sds1493 · « **Reply #1963 on:** October 06, 2021, 01:37:39 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 06, 2021, 11:25:51 AM

Have you stayed at the Protea and the Royal? Has anyone stayed at the Avani?

I stayed at the Protea and went for sundowners at Royal Livingstone.

One other jnb food place is sosushu. Delivery sushi place which is very good and very cheap by USA standards.

So is there a JNB DO at Burgers and Brew mon night?

Dan · « **Reply #1964 on:** October 06, 2021, 02:28:23 PM »

Anyone have a menu for Hey Barista?

mijo · « **Reply #1965 on:** October 06, 2021, 02:32:45 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 06, 2021, 02:28:23 PM

Anyone have a menu for Hey Barista?

Whatsapp them +27 72 949 2604

mijo · « **Reply #1966 on:** October 07, 2021, 01:58:39 AM »

Quote from: Dan on October 06, 2021, 02:28:23 PM

Anyone have a menu for Hey Barista?

From them: "6 am for coffee. We aim for 7 am for breakfast or earlier"

There is also: https://jozicoffeepizzapastagelato.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral
Located where Friends used to be. Open at 07:30, good for breakfast and lunch

Dan · « **Reply #1967 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:02:12 AM »

Quote from: mijo on October 07, 2021, 01:58:39 AM

From them: "6 am for coffee. We aim for 7 am for breakfast or earlier"

Thanks.

Quote from: mijo on October 07, 2021, 01:58:39 AM

There is also: https://jozicoffeepizzapastagelato.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral
Located where Friends used to be. Open at 07:30, good for breakfast and lunch

CY?

Dan · « **Reply #1968 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:04:25 AM »

Which Biltong do I want?

Euclid · « **Reply #1969 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:08:08 AM »

Quote from: Dan on October 07, 2021, 02:04:25 AM

Which Biltong do I want?

(All of it! Yum I love biltong; growing up there was a South African in my shul who made biltong whenever he made a kiddush)

mijo · « **Reply #1970 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:11:52 AM »

Quote from: Dan on October 07, 2021, 02:02:12 AM

Thanks.CY?

From Jozi: "Chalav cheese and we also have chalav milk"

sds1493 · « **Reply #1971 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:43:03 AM »

Quote from: mijo on October 07, 2021, 02:11:52 AM

From Jozi: "Chalav cheese and we also have chalav milk"

I.e. Not keilim.
With regard to biltong, sliced, chunks and chilli bites imo is what you want to try. However, more important than the cut is how wet you want it. As a first timer, presumably you don't want it too wet. But try on your first trip and order more for the return.

tmendy226 · « **Reply #1972 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:50:32 AM »

I really liked their dry wors

mijo · « **Reply #1973 on:** October 07, 2021, 02:54:45 AM »

Quote from: tmendy226 on October 07, 2021, 02:50:32 AM

I really liked their dry wors

@Dan Biltong is dry meat with spices/vinegar etc for flavour - whole family likes it
Dry Wors=Dry Sausage, can at times be fatty - I like it, my kids hit/miss
As a first timer, this is good advice:

Quote from: sds1493 on October 07, 2021, 02:43:03 AM

With regard to biltong, sliced, chunks and chilli bites imo is what you want to try. However, more important than the cut is how wet you want it. As a first timer, presumably you don't want it too wet. But try on your first trip and order more for the return.

You can get it vacuum packed
My experience with Moishes is that it's always best to order in advance, some days are VERY busy there.
I've frozen items across Africa from them - good stuff.

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #1974 on:** October 07, 2021, 07:30:04 AM »

Quote from: Dan on October 07, 2021, 02:04:25 AM

Which Biltong do I want?

Yes.

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #1975 on:** October 07, 2021, 12:20:56 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on October 07, 2021, 07:30:04 AM

Yes.

In all seriousness, availability varies a lot, so you likely will not have much of a choice.

Regarding the stuff back to the USA, just FYI dogs can sniff it through the vacuum packing.

Something Fishy · « **Reply #1976 on:** October 07, 2021, 01:36:07 PM »

Me, involving South Africa in a potential itinerary for the first time: I need a flight out of Pretoria.
Google flights: here are some flights out of Johannesburg
Me: Pretoria
Google: Johannesburg
Me: PRETORIA!
Google: JOHANNESBURG!
Me, grumpily checking Google Maps:

Dawie · « **Reply #1977 on:** October 07, 2021, 03:44:49 PM »

Quote from: Something Fishy on October 07, 2021, 01:36:07 PM

Me, involving South Africa in a potential itinerary for the first time: I need a flight out of Pretoria.
Google flights: here are some flights out of Johannesburg
Me: Pretoria
Google: Johannesburg
Me: PRETORIA!
Google: JOHANNESBURG!
Me, grumpily checking Google Maps:

You can always ask the pilot to land in Wonderboom or even better Waterkloof, but i think you have to be a Gupta to pull that off
(yes i saw you said flight out)
Pretoria is also as close to JNB as Monsey is to EWR but there is no Narruto Bowl on the way

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #1978 on:** October 07, 2021, 04:22:52 PM »

Quote from: Something Fishy on October 07, 2021, 01:36:07 PM

Me, involving South Africa in a potential itinerary for the first time: I need a flight out of Pretoria.
Google flights: here are some flights out of Johannesburg
Me: Pretoria
Google: Johannesburg
Me: PRETORIA!
Google: JOHANNESBURG!
Me, grumpily checking Google Maps:

What in heaven's name did you lose in Pretoria? Don't tell me there is some exquisitely beautiful natural phenomenon there I've been oblivious to all my life.

Dawie · « **Reply #1979 on:** October 07, 2021, 06:09:34 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on October 07, 2021, 04:22:52 PM

What in heaven's name did you lose in Pretoria? Don't tell me there is some exquisitely beautiful natural phenomenon there I've been oblivious to all my life.

Jacaranda trees
Wonderboom
Voortrekker Monument (if its still there)

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Name	Type	Hours	Contact	Location & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)	Meat	S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm	+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link	19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)	Meat	S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late	+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website	176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)	Milk	M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm	+27 (0)21 461 8414	20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)	Milk	S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm	+27 (0)21 465 1594 Website	88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)	Meat & Pareve	S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm	+27 (0)21 439 3008 Link	174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House	Milk		021 461 1100	9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre	Milk		021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za	The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee, sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)				Note: This is the only kosher B & R All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik. The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Name	Cost	Distance from CPT	Description and Notes
Boulders Beach	R170	35 min	• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!" • For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay		1.25 hours	Also features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive	R45/car	45 min	• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours. NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point	R360/pp	1.5 hours	• LONG but AMAZING drive • almost a full day activity
Lions Head			• Hike - not difficult • Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island			Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)	~R350		• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed • Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon • Can repel down • 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated) • repel for like 15 mins • hike back up is 25 mins • Closes 6pm • BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill			Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route			long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving	$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)	2 hours	Can do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3
Sandboarding			Bring goggles!
Skydiving	$170 (prices might be outdated) Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)
Hout Bay market
Kayaking at Hout Bay	Link		Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach			Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website
Aquila Private Game Reserve		2 hours	Pricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch		5 hours

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Name	Type	Contact	Location & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)	Milk	+27 11 440-3160 Link	Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)	Milk	+27 11 883-2265 Link	Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)	Milk		Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)		+27 11 440 1402 Website	1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)			Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)	Milk	+27 11 885-1500 Link	17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)	Meat	+27 11 885-1496 Website	553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)	Milk	+27 11 728-2577 Link	80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)		+27 11 485 2447 Website	74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)			A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)		011-656-3142 / 4915 info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/	Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)	Milk		They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

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