We need a separate mass shooting forum.

[zale]

Is there any rationalization for how long it took to neutralize the murderer?

The rationale is that they weren’t trained for anything other than writing tickers and eating donuts. So they stood outside like the cowards they were and were terrified of the gunman shooting children.

The reports, if true, should fundamentally change police protocol across the country  in handling an active shooter situation.

[avromie7]

The rationale is that they weren’t trained for anything other than writing tickers and eating donuts. So they stood outside like the cowards they were and were terrified of the gunman shooting children.

The reports, if true, should fundamentally change police protocol across the country  in handling an active shooter situation.

Isn't that the lesson that was supposed to be learned after Columbine?

[TimT]

Is there any rationalization for how long it took to neutralize the murderer?

They can’t even get their timeline together. Don’t expect anything rational out of there.

[TimT]

According to WSJ he was outside shooting for 12 minutes toward a funeral home across the street before entering the school.

[aygart]

The rationale is that they weren’t trained for anything other than writing tickers and eating donuts. So they stood outside like the cowards they were and were terrified of the gunman shooting children.

The reports, if true, should fundamentally change police protocol across the country  in handling an active shooter situation.

They have a SWAT

[TimT]

They have a SWAT

According to what they’re saying it took a tactical team an hour to arrive.
Which is beyond insane if true

[Moshe Green]

According to WSJ he was outside shooting for 12 minutes toward a funeral home across the street before entering the school.

[forgive me father]
Local Television Station:
"and after a more thorough investigation, another 7 were found dead in the funeral parlor across the street from the school bringing the total up to 27"

[aygart]

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1530214222080004102

[aygart]

https://twitter.com/janecoaston/status/1530223768928501768

[UKinNYS]

https://twitter.com/realchasegeiser/status/1529929894548983810

According to what they’re saying it took a tactical team an hour to arrive.
Which is beyond insane if true

[aygart]

Fox News: Tactical team prevented from entering school earlier by local Uvalde police: report.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tactical-team-prevented-from-entering-school-earlier?cmpid=prn_newsstand

[R.A.T.]

Sort highest to lowest and see if anything stands out of those in red?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
If you want to take it a step further search for states with the most guns per 100k population.

[jj1000]

Sort highest to lowest and see if anything stands out of those in red?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
If you want to take it a step further search for states with the most guns per 100k population.

Poverty leads to suicide?

[R.A.T.]

Poverty leads to suicide?

Wyoming
#1 in suicides
#2 in gun ownership. Missed being #1 by .1%
#3 in deaths by firearms
#39 in poverty

[AsherO]

Wyoming
#1 in suicides
#2 in gun ownership. Missed being #1 by .1%
#3 in deaths by firearms
#39 in poverty

These stupid oversimplified statistics don’t work.

It’s possible for Wyoming as a state to be 39 in Poverty and for poverty to also be a primary cause for suicide.

[Euclid]

Wyoming
#1 in suicides
#2 in gun ownership. Missed being #1 by .1%
#3 in deaths by firearms
#39 in poverty

https://apnews.com/article/wyoming-coronavirus-pandemic-gillette-d7d2bbf5e2040b4e1e5498c8131bc376
Maybe this is the cause of the suicides

[Ver hut gazugt]

Sicha of the rebbe pushing against the idea of poverty causing crime.

[Sam 77]

BREAKING: SHOOTING INCIDENT: Three people shot on the campus of Xavier University, according to New Orleans police. One person is in custody.

[Moshe Green]

BREAKING: SHOOTING INCIDENT: Three people shot on the campus of Xavier University, according to New Orleans police. One person is in custody.

can we define mass shooting? 2 people, 3, 10, 100?

[TimT]

can we define mass shooting? 2 people, 3, 10, 100?

In the US it’s 3+