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Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?

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Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« on: October 29, 2023, 02:28:00 PM »
The UN has become a cesspool for dictators to lecture the world. Is it time to bid adieu?

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2023, 02:29:03 PM »
It is easy to just say end so and so. What is the replacement?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2023, 02:33:50 PM »
It is easy to just say end so and so. What is the replacement?
Replacement for what?

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2023, 02:39:25 PM »
Replacement for what?
For the UN. The US has had success at times at the UN.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2023, 02:59:38 PM »
For the UN. The US has had success at times at the UN.
So leave it and replace it with the same?
What would be different?

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2023, 03:03:37 PM »
So leave it and replace it with the same?
What would be different?
If you want to get rid of it then you need to replace it with something, preferably better.
This is like any of these right-wing ideas. Get rid of healthcare. OK, what are you going to replace it with?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2023, 03:09:35 PM »
So leave it and replace it with the same?
What would be different?
the way it set up now the USA has veto power. If they take it down, at some point a new one will come along and who knows how that will work out.


But in principle it should be closed down.

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2023, 03:40:21 PM »
It is easy to just say end so and so. What is the replacement?
The League of Nations

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2023, 04:11:38 PM »
If the UN suddenly disappeared things would likely get much more chaotic rather than better.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2023, 04:19:35 PM »
Some agencies should get defunded such as UNRWA terror training schools.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2023, 04:20:21 PM »
Some agencies should get defunded such as UNRWA terror training schools.
Why doesn't the MSM cover this?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2023, 05:09:14 PM »
Replacement for what?
A central meeting place to speak about how bad Israel is.

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2023, 05:38:51 PM »
Some agencies should get defunded such as UNRWA terror training schools.

100% at this point they only exacerbate the problems.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2023, 05:45:47 PM »
100% at this point they only exacerbate the problems.
There was a point they didn't?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2023, 07:34:48 PM »
Why doesn't the MSM cover this?
They support it... Their reporters on the ground hang out with these guys.

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2023, 08:21:07 PM »
There was a point they didn't?

Had to say, when it was setup the UN was in its infancy and had UNRWA done their job there might not have been a middle eastern problem (or at least not the same one we have today).
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2023, 06:23:06 AM »
It is easy to just say end so and so. What is the replacement?

Actualy quite simple.

The western nations/allies dropped the ball when they founded the UN.

Membership rights and priviledges NEED to be dependant on adhearance to western norms - democracy, human rights...
If you are dictatorship  - you don't get to have a vote on whether another nation has done wrong, or decide how to chanel the flow of money...
Votes are weighted by regional/world importance so you cant have the western worldout voted by a bunch of tiny nations...

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2023, 06:30:05 AM »
Actualy quite simple.

The western nations/allies dropped the ball when they founded the UN.

Membership rights and priviledges NEED to be dependant on adhearance to western norms - democracy, human rights...
If you are dictatorship  - you don't get to have a vote on whether another nation has done wrong, or decide how to chanel the flow of money...
Votes are weighted by regional/world importance so you cant have the western worldout voted by a bunch of tiny nations...
You mean to say that China and Russia, who have killed 100's of millions of their OWN people, and a host of terrorist nations and African tribes who butcher the other side, shouldn't decide if Israel is committing genocide for striking back at terrorists who hide behind women and children?

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2023, 09:19:34 AM »
Actualy quite simple.

The western nations/allies dropped the ball when they founded the UN.

Membership rights and priviledges NEED to be dependant on adhearance to western norms - democracy, human rights...
If you are dictatorship  - you don't get to have a vote on whether another nation has done wrong, or decide how to chanel the flow of money...
Votes are weighted by regional/world importance so you cant have the western worldout voted by a bunch of tiny nations...


It also makes no sense that each sovereign government gets the same vote when some entire countries are smaller than many US cities in both population and size.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2023, 09:28:10 AM »
It also makes no sense that each sovereign government gets the same vote when some entire countries are smaller than many US cities in both population and size.

But then you start getting into fights over how much voting power each country should get. They’ll each prefer a metric that favors them.
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