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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1731567 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2600 on: April 25, 2013, 10:27:49 PM »
פארשטאנען!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2601 on: April 25, 2013, 10:35:58 PM »
Just arrived in my wife's SM inbox:

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"I wish to inform you that rewards can only be transferred
between accounts with the same rewards earning structure.
You can transfer rewards internally between any other
eligible credit or debit card account enrolled in the
Ultimate Rewards program.


In order to check if you can transfer the reward points to
your husband's account, please reply to this email with
your husband's account number. once you email is received
we will be able to assist you further."

Is the SM CSR confusing can and may?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2602 on: April 25, 2013, 10:36:28 PM »
פארשטאנען!!
Do not delay! Chase shuts people down regardless of UR transfers as well as seen in this thread and all over the web!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2603 on: April 25, 2013, 10:42:27 PM »
Just arrived in my wife's SM inbox:

Is the SM CSR confusing can and may?
Email them back and see what they say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2604 on: April 25, 2013, 10:45:11 PM »
Do not delay! Chase shuts people down regardless of UR transfers as well as seen in this thread and all over the web!

Delay what?
Changing one of our addresses?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2605 on: April 25, 2013, 11:06:57 PM »
Delay what?
Changing one of our addresses?
Yep.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2606 on: April 25, 2013, 11:27:01 PM »
opened a Hyatt card 55 days ago and just closed it yesterday to get the annual fee back.

i asked by SM that they should move the whole CL from hyatt to freedom and close the hyatt.
the SM CSR said " we cant move all the CL, it has to keep at least $500, but Ill close it for you as per your request" so i lost $500 of my CL which I wasnt excited about for my CR.
So I wrote back that it was  amisunderstanding, and can they please move the remaining $500 of CL from the closed Hyatt card to the freedom.  They responded that consolidation can only be between open  cards, and hyatt is closed so they cant. I replied requesting that they reopen the hyatt to allow the last $500 of CL to be consolidated, and the reply was as follows"
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Dear YG,

I am writing in response to your request to reopen and
consolidate the credit line on your Hyatt account.

I apologize for the inconvenience caused. Please note,
your account is under review and you should receive a
response within two to three business days.


If you have any further questions, please reply using the
Secure Message Center.

Thank you,

Melita Menezes
Customer Service Specialist

The bolded words are making me nervous about A/A.  Ive never seen this phrase in an SM before and Ive made many similar requests.  never been told my account was under review, and never been told to wait 2-3 business days.
Any thoughts re: indication of A/A risk?

if i might get hit, id like to clear out my wifes UR to my UA through my SP.  The only UR card she has is freedom so she cant move them out.  if i get hit ch'v , her points will be stuck for quite some time and I need them to take my UA account over 100K to take the value of my miles up.

flip side is that by rushing and transferring UR>UR now, that might attract more attention even though that particular detail is legit.  havent done anything not legit, but lots of accounts open and then quickly closed for anual fee refund after receiving sign up bonuses.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2607 on: April 25, 2013, 11:35:25 PM »
I don't understand why the $500 CL means so much to you.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2608 on: April 25, 2013, 11:37:05 PM »
I don't understand why the $500 CL means so much to you.

+1

You shouldn't be rocking the boat for a measly $500.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2609 on: April 25, 2013, 11:48:21 PM »
+1

You shouldn't be rocking the boat for a measly $500.
I guess he didn't read this ;D

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2610 on: April 25, 2013, 11:53:04 PM »
+1

You shouldn't be rocking the boat for a measly $500.

 Oh well. Now that I did, think the sm could mean a review that could lead to A/A?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2611 on: April 25, 2013, 11:54:29 PM »
Oh well. Now that I did, think the sm could mean a review that could lead to A/A?

Probably not what it means.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2612 on: April 25, 2013, 11:56:19 PM »
Sure HOPE you're right!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2613 on: April 26, 2013, 02:08:02 AM »
+1

You shouldn't be rocking the boat for a measly $500.
+1
They will never let you transfer the last $500 anyway, IME.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2614 on: April 26, 2013, 06:18:53 AM »
Brokers generally pay more ofr UR-UR unless they have an immediate need and you can do UR-UA
My understanding from the brokers I spoke to is that nowadays, they always transfer directly to someone else's UA.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2615 on: April 26, 2013, 08:56:07 AM »
If that's the case than you definitely need that SM.
Who would put themselves and their spouse under the same address with Chase?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2616 on: May 01, 2013, 11:46:03 AM »
Here's a letter from Chase during the A/A process with a reason (!) as to why they shut down the accounts:

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Dear xxxxxx:

We are writing to notify you that we have closed the account referenced above. This action was taken in accordance with our termination rights as disclosed in your cardmember agreement

We are taking this action for the following reason:

Chase affiliate has closed your account

etc etc...

This same letter was received for 3 credit cards, all went out on the same day.
The CC's were:

1) United (UA account still open and in good standing).
2) Hyatt (Account open and in good standing.
3) Sapphire.

There's was also an Ink Bold on the profile which was open at the time those accounts got shut down but, today, upon logging in I noticed the IB is shut down as well.. The 2000 UR for that IB are still there though...

Anyone know what "Chase affiliate has closed your account" means?

The reps have no clue what it means or don't want to say...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2617 on: May 01, 2013, 12:39:55 PM »
Here's a letter from Chase during the A/A process with a reason (!) as to why they shut down the accounts:

This same letter was received for 3 credit cards, all went out on the same day.
The CC's were:

1) United (UA account still open and in good standing).
2) Hyatt (Account open and in good standing.
3) Sapphire.

There's was also an Ink Bold on the profile which was open at the time those accounts got shut down but, today, upon logging in I noticed the IB is shut down as well.. The 2000 UR for that IB are still there though...

Anyone know what "Chase affiliate has closed your account" means?

The reps have no clue what it means or don't want to say...
Is this for same person who got his checking account closed?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2618 on: May 01, 2013, 12:46:31 PM »
Is this for same person who got his checking account closed?
No.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2619 on: May 01, 2013, 12:49:26 PM »
were you closed down by square?