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 My view on a statement like Rav Miller's is that whatever happens we are supposed to take a lesson out of it. When a tragedy happens and we say it may have been because of this that or the other thing it is simply to take a lesson from it for personal improvement. It is not to lay fault.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #120 on: December 29, 2019, 08:49:16 PM »
You just listed a few of the many reasons why this is such a complicated issue, why can't you see that. Just because you believe that there is a very simple solution, doesn't mean that it could ever get passed into law. People nowadays seem to be living in a fantasy world where all political issues have very simple solutions that just can't be passed because "the other side" won't agree. These things become complicated specifically because of the fact that we can't agree, the sooner we realize that, the sooner we can begin to work on actual solutions that can actually be passed into law.
I disagree.  :)
The issue is those we elected don't respect our wishes.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #121 on: December 29, 2019, 09:09:46 PM »
This thread is turning into a politics thread.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #122 on: December 29, 2019, 09:10:40 PM »
This thread is turning into a politics thread.
Not until I use "Kool-Aid".  :)
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #123 on: December 29, 2019, 09:20:37 PM »
The issue is those we elected don't respect our wishes.
Those we elect respect nothing but their own interests.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #124 on: December 29, 2019, 09:22:21 PM »
I am not going to ask what way they would go on guns laws but would you say the constitution should change as society changes?
Yes, it should. The Framers created a process for that. My opinion is that the process they created is very adequate and appropriate. It is very intentional that changing the constitution is difficult. That is s feature not a flaw.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #125 on: December 29, 2019, 09:23:33 PM »

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #126 on: December 29, 2019, 09:23:37 PM »
30% is a lot.

It's a lot because in some areas it's very low say NYC and in some areas it's much higher.

Further, a full 43% live in a house with a gun.


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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #127 on: December 29, 2019, 09:25:26 PM »
So we went from self defense to gun control.

Enjoy.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #128 on: December 29, 2019, 09:27:21 PM »
Further, a full 43% live in a house with a gun.
Meaningless except for guns in household who probably have no idea how to use one.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #129 on: December 29, 2019, 09:28:26 PM »
So we went from self defense to gun control.

Enjoy.

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The question is how to stop the original attack not how to stop it after the fact.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #130 on: December 29, 2019, 09:31:21 PM »
The question is how to stop the original attack not how to stop it after the fact.
Broken windows policies. Stop glorifying rabble rousers like Al Sharpton. Media and politicians should stop inciting hate.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #131 on: December 29, 2019, 09:33:00 PM »
Broken windows policies. Stop glorifying rabble rousers like Al Sharpton. Media and politicians should stop inciting hate.
Even if all that is done there are just evil people out there. How do we stop them from getting guns?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #132 on: December 29, 2019, 09:36:28 PM »
Broken windows policies. Stop glorifying rabble rousers like Al Sharpton. Media and politicians should stop inciting hate.
+1000
I think much of this is caused by the media feeding into this! (I was just at the Auschwitz exhibit on Battery Park and I left shaking as the climate today is so similar to that of Europe in the 1930s! It's terrifying)

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #133 on: December 29, 2019, 09:38:21 PM »
I was just at the Auschwitz exhibit on Battery Park and I left shaking as the climate today is so similar to that of Europe in the 1930s! It's terrifying
You don't think comments like this feed the frenzy?
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #134 on: December 29, 2019, 09:39:09 PM »
Per Gallup

"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty percent of U.S. adults say they personally own a gun, while a larger percentage, 43%, report living in a gun household."


these stats are lacking crucial context . Far and away the most popular car in US is a pickup truck and 2nd most popular sport is racing (after football) . How many people who live in Urban areas drive F-150s and watch Nascar? Can't compare NYC to Alabama .

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #135 on: December 29, 2019, 09:40:50 PM »
You don't think comments like this feed the frenzy?
Hopefully not here!!!

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #136 on: December 29, 2019, 10:03:03 PM »
The question is how to stop the original attack not how to stop it after the fact.
So you agree that the best way to stop an attack after the fact is with a gun, sounds like your destroying your own argument. And the only way to stop the original attack would be better policing as shown by the lack of it in parkland.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #137 on: December 29, 2019, 10:11:27 PM »
So you agree that the best way to stop an attack after the fact is with a gun, sounds like your destroying your own argument. And the only way to stop the original attack would be better policing as shown by the lack of it in parkland.
How am I destroying my argument? I believe the current attack was stopped without a gun, no?
My argument is adding more guns to the mix will solve nothing.
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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #138 on: December 29, 2019, 10:13:13 PM »
Even if all that is done there are just evil people out there. How do we stop them from getting guns?

He used a knife. It's sickening how you turn every attack into some play for gun control.

And the attack in Brooklyn with a brick.. etc.

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Re: Its Open Season on Jews
« Reply #139 on: December 29, 2019, 10:15:00 PM »
How am I destroying my argument? I believe the current attack was stopped without a gun, no?
My argument is adding more guns to the mix will solve nothing.

Invalid argument.