Would it be fair to say nobody really knows and that is why the US is split on this?
So allowing them to make the bomb, but having them wait a few years first, during which they can work on all the technology they need to deliver the bomb, while giving them the cash they need for this and opening up their economy making everything easier, would've been a lot better than at least trying to stop them -- even if it's ultimately unsuccessful.
No.Obama having a huge fanbase is not an argument in favor of the deal.
Since in this thread you seem to be focusing on who said/did what, rather than the substance of the matter, how about
I love when others make my point.
How about military experts? You think they can be swayed by charm?
When your point is so unclear and all over the map I guess almost anything someone says can be making your point
Yes, of course. (and yes, that does work for both sides.)
Anyways, when you have an actual argument why it's better to allow --even help them ($150billion + loosened sanctions) -- get the bomb in 10 years (5 more years from now) is better than at least trying to stop them, wake me up. until then I'm out.
I don't have a better argument than anyone else. What I do know is this is a divided issue that transcends politics.
I tend to believe our military puts our country first not politics.
Translation: "I can't make an argument why it was a good idea, but my guy did it so it must be good."
Translation: I defer to higher authorities. Something I figured you would agree with.
Translation: "Obama is God"
If he is then I never voted for G-d. Sorry if this square peg does not fit in your round hole but you are welcomed to keep hammering away.
when you have an actual argument why it's better to allow --even help them ($150billion + loosened sanctions) -- get the bomb in 10 years (5 more years from now) is better than at least trying to stop them, wake me up. until then I'm out.
Gosh this is why I've been avoiding the politics thread like the plague.I'm already done with all this after 4 days, I don't know how you guys are keeping at it for 4 years already.