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Dropping Antibody Levels
« on: May 14, 2020, 11:20:16 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/stuart.ditchek/videos/3075132022530051/

At 4 minutes in Dr. Ditchek says they are noticing steady declines in IgG levels for people taking multiple antibody tests. In his case the numbers fell too low to donate more plasma a few weeks after successfully donating.

Does this mean people will start getting reinfected?
Does this mean making a vaccine is going to be harder than we originally hoped for? Or that we'll all need frequent boosters?
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2020, 11:21:42 PM »
No your body still retain the ability to spool up again it's just no longer on red alert

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2020, 11:22:22 PM »
No your body still retain the ability to spool up again it's just no longer on red alert
Source?
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2020, 11:25:31 PM »
Source?
basic immunology (spoke to a Dr about this earlier this week) but I'll look up a source

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2020, 11:30:40 PM »
While Dr Ditchek is a very respected dr he has been talking too much....

I think it's unnecessary fear...

Its likely faulty testing. The testing keeps on being updated and we know that some tests are showing false negetives.

Most doctors believe that you will stay immuned for some time.

He just wants people to still wear masks and not make minyanim so he is spreading these videos. He should go back to do his job. Some of his videos / messages were absolutely nuts.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2020, 11:32:41 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/stuart.ditchek/videos/3075132022530051/

At 4 minutes in Dr. Ditchek says they are noticing steady declines in IgG levels for people taking multiple antibody tests. In his case the numbers fell too low to donate more plasma a few weeks after successfully donating.

Does this mean people will start getting reinfected?
Does this mean making a vaccine is going to be harder than we originally hoped for? Or that we'll all need frequent boosters?
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-what-antibody-tests-tell-us

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2020, 11:34:08 PM »
While Dr Ditchek is a very respected dr he has been talking too much....

I think it's unnecessary fear...

Its likely faulty testing. The testing keeps on being updated and we know that some tests are showing false negetives.

Most doctors believe that you will stay immuned for some time.

He just wants people to still wear masks and not make minyanim so he is spreading these videos. He should go back to do his job. Some of his videos / messages were absolutely nuts.
Yup. Don't think he's even infectious disease specialist. When he says we have been seeing it definitely isn't in office. So not sure what his sources are but hard to take him seriously nonetheless

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2020, 11:34:38 PM »
While Dr Ditchek is a very respected dr he has been talking too much....

I think it's unnecessary fear...

Its likely faulty testing. The testing keeps on being updated and we know that some tests are showing false negetives.

Most doctors believe that you will stay immuned for some time.

He just wants people to still wear masks and not make minyanim so he is spreading these videos. He should go back to do his job. Some of his videos / messages were absolutely nuts.

With all due respect, he has a degree to fall back on. You're just speculating with zero sources...

And btw... for all his crazy videos ranting about the shuls being open, he was right and probably saved a bunch of lives.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2020, 11:41:25 PM »
A little amateur question. There was an article in zman a while ago about some guy who developed immunity to snake bites. He used to inject into himself a little venom, and his body would fight it and develop a cure for others who got bitten (they would inject some of his blood).
No idea how these things work - if it's any comparison or not, but wouldn't it make sense for those who have the antibodies for covid19, to keep on exposing themselves so their immune system keeps on fighting the virus?

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2020, 11:44:02 PM »
A little amateur question. There was an article in zman
I stopped here.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2020, 11:45:16 PM »
basic immunology (spoke to a Dr about this earlier this week) but I'll look up a source
Don't believe that's correct. Other immunities show up in igG titers.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2020, 11:46:11 PM »

Its likely faulty testing.
This is the best hope.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2020, 11:46:48 PM »

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2020, 11:48:13 PM »
Yup. Don't think he's even infectious disease specialist. When he says we have been seeing it definitely isn't in office. So not sure what his sources are but hard to take him seriously nonetheless
Yeah, for sure, you know better than all the doctors who are out there on the front lines. Are you anti-vaxxer, too?

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2020, 11:52:51 PM »
Yeah, for sure, you know better than all the doctors who are out there on the front lines. Are you anti-vaxxer, too?
Not sure what one has to do with the other. If your a real estate attorney, and start saying things about criminal law, nobody would question ur knowledge. Its simply not ur field.

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2020, 11:53:39 PM »
Not sure what one has to do with the other. If your a real estate attorney, and start saying things about criminal law, nobody would question ur knowledge. Its simply not ur field.
Yet, you deem yourself qualified.

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2020, 11:54:21 PM »
Yet, you deem yourself qualified.
I pointed out that this isn't his area of expertise. Nothing else

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2020, 11:57:00 PM »
With all due respect, he has a degree to fall back on. You're just speculating with zero sources...

And btw... for all his crazy videos ranting about the shuls being open, he was right and probably saved a bunch of lives.
Degree not withstanding, I no longer believe a word he says. He's gone nuts.
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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2020, 12:00:23 AM »

And btw... for all his crazy videos ranting about the shuls being open, he was right and probably saved a bunch of lives.

Bh we have Shuls in this thread too

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Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2020, 12:04:34 AM »
I stopped here.
Turns out the guy was a mossad agent...