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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2020, 10:30:56 AM »
I'm hearing this new extreme line:
The govt is targeting Yidishkeit. Why are public pools ok but not Shuls? This is a Sha'as Hashmad and mechuyav to mosser nefesh al kiddush  H'

if you dont want to hear that, you gotta stop dealling with Etznikim

On a different note, I cannot fathom how we are now 6-7 months into this pandemic, and Israeli hospitals are now as stressed from a similar amount of serious cases as they were in March???
We flattened the curve, what did the health system do with the time we gave them???

Ok, I'l answer it myself; It's because the Israeli health system (like some other western health systems) is regularly operating close to capacity, and has great difficulty dealing with winter illnesses in the best of times, in addition to the Israeli planning mentality which can not plan further than next week! After pesach the numbers went down, so they closed many of the Covid wards and command centers! like theier was no chance it would come back!

Why is there no disscution over the Govt failure???
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2020, 10:56:56 AM »
@yfr bachur just softening it for the DDF hamon am....
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2020, 12:13:15 PM »
they closed many of the Covid wards and command centers! like theier was no chance it would come back!

They were closed temporarily and since reopened.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #123 on: July 16, 2020, 02:13:53 PM »
Weekend lockdowns only starting next week
gatherings limited to 10 indoor, 20 outdoor
No on-site dining, takeout only
Schools, camps, etc. closed
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #124 on: July 16, 2020, 02:23:07 PM »
I’m was in mea shearim last Friday and 99.9% of chalmer’s I saw wore masks!
Update: just was in mea shearim most men were not wearing masks however the woman were
Not sure anymore what’s going on!

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #125 on: July 16, 2020, 03:49:23 PM »

Why is there no disscution over the Govt failure???

Because it unfortunately becomes political, but I'm pretty sure many Bibi supporters are not happy with him handling this. He refuses to give it over to the army, and they definitely not prepared for the winter.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #126 on: July 16, 2020, 06:49:16 PM »
Schools, camps, etc. closed

Any info on whether chadarim are gonna close?

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #127 on: July 16, 2020, 07:02:23 PM »
Any info on whether chadarim are gonna close?

The government meeting tonight ended without conclusions, so nothing is closing yet
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #128 on: July 19, 2020, 07:28:38 PM »
From Israeli Seminary
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #130 on: August 27, 2020, 08:08:39 AM »
And the experiment letting in bachurim...
Waiting at a bus stop on Yirmiyahu last week, overhear a couple of US bachurim talking to each other, from their conversation it was obvious that they were supposed to be in quarantine in Givat Shaul.
The UK bachur Today in the Mir, told by one of the rammim that he needs to wear a mask in the bais medrash "No I dont, and I wont"
The raid going round that only R' Tzvi's yeshiva (and the Mir, who rented a campus outside JLM) are makpid that those who need to be in quarantine keep the rules.
The fact that the Mir currently has absolutely no realistic plan how it will run its capsules, keep them separate.... (well sourced info)

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #131 on: August 27, 2020, 08:10:43 AM »
And the experiment letting in bachurim...
Waiting at a bus stop on Yirmiyahu last week, overhear a couple of US bachurim talking to each other, from their conversation it was obvious that they were supposed to be in quarantine in Givat Shaul.
The UK bachur Today in the Mir, told by one of the rammim that he needs to wear a mask in the bais medrash "No I dont, and I wont"
The raid going round that only R' Tzvi's yeshiva (and the Mir, who rented a campus outside JLM) are makpid that those who need to be in quarantine keep the rules.
The fact that the Mir currently has absolutely no realistic plan how it will run its capsules, keep them separate.... (well sourced info)
crazy!

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #132 on: August 31, 2020, 10:29:56 AM »
And the experiment letting in bachurim...

The UK bachur Today in the Mir, told by one of the rammim that he needs to wear a mask in the bais medrash "No I dont, and I wont"

Positive test today in that BM in the Mir, as well as Multiple positives in other BMim.

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #133 on: August 31, 2020, 10:37:15 AM »
@yfr bachur
Isn't the UK a green country so they wouldn't need to quarantine?


R Sholom Shachter, R Tzvi, The Mir are all being makpid and I believe Brisk is doing their best as well (they rented Diaspora Yeshiva) 

All the 1st yr places + seminaries are on legit lockdown even past the first 2 weeks.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2020, 11:09:47 AM »
@yfr bachur
Isn't the UK a green country so they wouldn't need to quarantine?


R Sholom Shachter, R Tzvi, The Mir are all being makpid and I believe Brisk is doing their best as well (they rented Diaspora Yeshiva) 

All the 1st yr places + seminaries are on legit lockdown even past the first 2 weeks.

Uk bachur, does not need to quarantine, but has to wear a mask!

The "Raid" is about the post bais medrash Yeshivish type places. not the first year places which by definition have more control over their student body.

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Brisk is doing their best as well

I have no idea what's going on in Brisk, or the other Brisk, or the third or fourth Brisk, but "doing their best", when you describe other places as being on "legit lockdown"....???

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #135 on: August 31, 2020, 11:14:12 AM »
Uk bachur, does not need to quarantine, but has to wear a mask!

The "Raid" is about the post bais medrash Yeshivish type places. not the first year places which by definition have more control over their student body.

I have no idea what's going on in Brisk, or the other Brisk, or the third or fourth Brisk, but "doing their best", when you describe other places as being on "legit lockdown"....???
Needs to wear a mask indoors?

I have first hand info about the post bais medrash places. Feel free to PM if you want more.
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #136 on: August 31, 2020, 02:52:24 PM »

I have no idea what's going on in Brisk, or the other Brisk, or the third or fourth Brisk, but "doing their best", when you describe other places as being on "legit lockdown"....???
There's only one Brisk

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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #137 on: August 31, 2020, 03:15:03 PM »
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #138 on: August 31, 2020, 07:26:11 PM »
Needs to wear a mask indoors?

Yes.
I understand that you're in bidud, I assume that means that you've just arrived back.
Welcome home.
You have to wear a mask in public.
In stores, on public transportation, in shuls and batei medrash etc..
Has nothing to with inside or outside.

(If anything outside should need it less, not more)
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Re: The current state of COVID-19 in Israel
« Reply #139 on: September 02, 2020, 03:47:21 AM »
Additional positives in the Mir today.
At least one large chabura (one that was very makpid on mask wearing) was told not to come till further notice.