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They are certified Kosher from the local Rabbanut. (Ein Bokek)
The meat is NOT Glatt.
The chicken is Rabbanut Mehadrin.
The cooking is Bishul Yisrael according to the Rema, not the Beit Yosef.
The vegetables are Gush Katif. The cabbage is NOT.

The Mashgiach says, the hard cheeses are not Mehadrin.

Breakfast:
- Breads, pastries, cakes - parbaked or raw frozen , Chasam Sofer Petach Tiqwa
- Packaged yogurts and puddings - some are B"datz . Rubin, but be careful some could be cholov nochri, check packaging
- Grapefruit and Orange Juice from Spout - PriMor ,Chasam Sofer Petach Tiqwa
- Hard Round Cheeses on cutting board- Cholov Nochri
- Gvina Levana, cottage cheese - .....................
- Feta, Bulgarian Cheeses - He claims Belz
- Some type of butter spread- some are cholov nochri
- Fish- He says B"datz ( he says B"datz about alot of things....), but its usually just herring and mackarel
- Tuna - He says B"datz, but there is usually some type of leafy veggie in there i.e. parsley
- Instant Coffee Machine - Cholov Yisroel of some rabbi in Ashkelon
- Espresso Station - Milk is usually Mehadrin Tnuva, you can look at the bag (Yes milk comes in a 5 gallon bag)
- Hot Stations- Not really sure, they serve dinner there also which is fleishig, I'm guessing they switch the stations, but i wouldn't....
- Produce - He says B"datz ( he says B"datz about alot of things....)
- Cereals- some are cholov nochri


Lounge:
Basically the same cakes and fruits as breakfast.

Mashgiach's number 050-892-2728
« Last edited by hakohen on August 04, 2013, 04:29:29 PM »

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #620 on: August 04, 2013, 07:38:59 AM »
+1, let 3 maybe ur thinking of the plaza/ leonardo. i never ever heard one person say the chicken is good or they ate in the main dining room on shabb
The chicken is Rabbanut mehadrin, which has been discussed isn't glatt
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #621 on: August 04, 2013, 08:17:07 AM »
The chicken is Rabbanut mehadrin, which has been discussed isn't glatt
Which rabbanut?

IIRC the mashgiach said that its possible to maybe order rabbunat mehadrin or  badatz beit yosef

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #622 on: August 04, 2013, 08:21:03 AM »
The chicken is Rabbanut mehadrin, which has been discussed isn't glatt
Rabbanut mehadrin yeruahalayim chicken isn't glatt?
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #623 on: August 04, 2013, 08:24:05 AM »
The chicken is Rabbanut mehadrin, which has been discussed isn't glatt
Rabbanut mehadrin yeruahalayim chicken isn't glatt?

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #624 on: August 04, 2013, 08:47:21 AM »
Rabbanut mehadrin yeruahalayim chicken isn't glatt?
Don't take my word for it, but from what I understand from speaking to various people in kashrus, chickens aren't "glatt" per se, but most "mehadrin" hashgachos follow a chumra by chickens that if there is any shaila, they give the chickens away to a non-mehadrin hashgacha. RM doesn't follow that chumra.
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #625 on: August 04, 2013, 10:27:51 AM »
....Double check that it's actually 'they'  ;)
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #626 on: August 04, 2013, 12:31:18 PM »
What's the hecsher on the fruit?

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #627 on: August 04, 2013, 01:03:07 PM »
The hotel's hechsher is the local rabbanut (bikat hayerden IIRC, which few would rely on) it is as kosher as any other hotel in the Dead sea....
We are just relying on the mashgiach who looks reliable, who claims that different things are from different hechsherim. FWIW, I dont think its still the same mashgiach over that the we all know, when I was there recently, it was a different guy.
And the wiki here should also not be take very accurately, for eg. Milk, is not like it says in the wiki, it is Tnuva milk with the regular hechsher of the Rav Tnuva. No bedatzes involved, and maybe this refers to all dairy Tnuva products served.

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #628 on: August 04, 2013, 01:15:50 PM »
The hotel's hechsher is the local rabbanut (bikat hayerden IIRC, which few would rely on) it is as kosher as any other hotel in the Dead sea....
We are just relying on the mashgiach who looks reliable, who claims that different things are from different hechsherim. FWIW, I dont think its still the same mashgiach over that the we all know, when I was there recently, it was a different guy.
And the wiki here should also not be take very accurately, for eg. Milk, is not like it says in the wiki, it is Tnuva milk with the regular hechsher of the Rav Tnuva. No bedatzes involved, and maybe this refers to all dairy Tnuva products served.
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #629 on: August 04, 2013, 01:25:04 PM »
Boy I remember staying here pre-DDF in 2007 and only eating whatever mehadrin ice cream we could find in the area :D
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #630 on: August 04, 2013, 01:29:20 PM »
Boy I remember staying here pre-DDF in 2007 and only eating whatever mehadrin ice cream we could find in the area :D
the ice creams in the hotel are actually mehadrin now.. (Landau)

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #631 on: August 11, 2013, 04:57:40 PM »
the ice creams in the hotel are actually mehadrin now.. (Landau)
Last time there, I had plenty of kosher yogurts in the main dining room refrigerators with the best hechsirim,

So granted that the meaty meals are questionable and maybe so are the cheasy stuff, but how do y'all feel about eating there a breakfast, eggs and vegetables? What about there bread? is it pas yisroal? What about orlah and shmita issues

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #632 on: August 11, 2013, 05:03:05 PM »
Last time there, I had plenty of kosher yogurts in the main dining room refrigerators with the best hechsirim,

So granted that the meaty meals are questionable and maybe so are the cheasy stuff, but how do y'all feel about eating there a breakfast, eggs and vegetables? What about there bread? is it pas yisroal? What about orlah and shmita issues
i would worry about terumos and maasros before shemitta right now

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #633 on: August 13, 2013, 12:36:12 AM »
i would worry about terumos and maasros before shemitta right now
whats the issue? Don't we have another year until 5775?

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #634 on: August 13, 2013, 02:54:54 AM »
whats the issue? Don't we have another year until 5775?
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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #635 on: August 28, 2013, 10:57:02 PM »
Booking a friend at the LMDS on points.  Do SPG point night including breakfast? If not, how much is breakfast?

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #636 on: August 28, 2013, 11:04:19 PM »
Booking a friend at the LMDS on points.  Do SPG point night including breakfast? If not, how much is breakfast?
Breakfast is not included in spg nights, I think It's around 60 to 70 NIS, all you can eat...

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #637 on: August 29, 2013, 01:24:34 AM »
Breakfast is not included in spg nights, I think It's around 60 to 70 NIS, all you can eat...
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If you're Plat, then you can have breakfast as your check in benefit.

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #638 on: August 29, 2013, 01:26:54 AM »
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If you're Plat, then you can have breakfast as your check in benefit.
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 did you see anyone talking about plat?, plain SPG nights do not include breakfast, PERIOD!

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Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #639 on: August 29, 2013, 01:40:06 AM »
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 did you see anyone talking about plat?, plain SPG nights do not include breakfast, PERIOD!
He asked if a room booked on points has breakfast.
You said no.
That is incorrect, since it depends on the account's status. B/c his post didn't specify the type of account, your answer should have differentiated btw Plat and non-Plat.

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