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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1500 on: January 31, 2023, 10:50:10 AM »
That one is reserved for Hyperinflation.  ;D
So do I hope for 75 and t-bill rates go up?  :)
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1501 on: January 31, 2023, 10:52:45 AM »
So do I hope for 75 and t-bill rates go up?  :)

In that case long bonds go price up yield down, and we get an even greater yield curve inversion.

If I were a betting person I would bet slightly higher odds on the 50bps vs 25bps, as I think this isn't about the rates but about credibility.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1502 on: January 31, 2023, 11:01:11 AM »
...as I think this isn't about the rates but about credibility.
Inflation is going down and no recession so far. That's pretty "in-creditable".  :)
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1503 on: January 31, 2023, 02:48:28 PM »
In that case long bonds go price up yield down, and we get an even greater yield curve inversion.

If I were a betting person I would bet slightly higher odds on the 50bps vs 25bps, as I think this isn't about the rates but about credibility.
Market is pricing 25bps at 99%. Will be a very red day of they do 50.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1504 on: January 31, 2023, 03:04:12 PM »
Will be a very red day of they do 50.
...and 75?  :'(
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1505 on: January 31, 2023, 04:44:24 PM »

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1506 on: February 01, 2023, 01:31:02 PM »
Market is pricing 25bps at 99%. Will be a very red day of they do 50.
What time? Is it today?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1507 on: February 01, 2023, 01:54:36 PM »
What time? Is it today?
Yes. 2:00 release. 2:30 press conference.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1508 on: February 01, 2023, 02:00:41 PM »
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1509 on: February 01, 2023, 03:14:34 PM »
What did the feds say? Market liked what they said.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1510 on: February 01, 2023, 03:37:27 PM »
What did the feds say? Market liked what they said.
Same message mostly with less harshness and more "open to the data" attitude.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1511 on: February 05, 2023, 11:15:07 PM »
its official
time to lock this thread, crisis is over BH
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1513 on: February 14, 2023, 12:36:51 AM »
Walmart water doubled in price, pack of 40 bottles is now 5.36

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1514 on: February 14, 2023, 09:33:59 AM »
A tale of two headlines

Inflation rose 0.5% in January, more than expected and up 6.4% from a year ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/14/consumer-price-index-january-2023-.html


The New York Times: CPI Report Updates: Inflation Down Slightly in January, a Worry for the Fed

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/14/business/january-cpi-inflation-report
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1515 on: February 14, 2023, 10:23:21 AM »
A tale of two headlines

Inflation rose 0.5% in January, more than expected and up 6.4% from a year ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/14/consumer-price-index-january-2023-.html


The New York Times: CPI Report Updates: Inflation Down Slightly in January, a Worry for the Fed

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/14/business/january-cpi-inflation-report

One is talking about the CPI, which is up. And one is talking about inflation that's the rate change in CPI which is down but not as much as Fed would like

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1516 on: February 14, 2023, 12:48:06 PM »
One is talking about the CPI, which is up. And one is talking about inflation that's the rate change in CPI which is down but not as much as Fed would like
To clarify further; both are referring to the CPI. One states the current monthly and annual reading, which is 0.5% and 6.4%, respectively, while the other compares this months annual reading (6.4%) to last months annual reading (6.5%).

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #1517 on: February 14, 2023, 01:07:53 PM »
To clarify further; both are referring to the CPI. One states the current monthly and annual reading, which is 0.5% and 6.4%, respectively, while the other compares this months annual reading (6.4%) to last months annual reading (6.5%).
just want to point out, the 0.5% is compared to last month which that month had inflation as well. So this is an acceleration in inflation.

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