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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #460 on: December 29, 2022, 12:54:16 AM »
Rumor is that meat will be getting more expensive shortly.
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #461 on: December 29, 2022, 01:03:51 AM »
Rumor is that meat will be getting more expensive shortly.
You mean it is planned and not based on market conditions?
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #462 on: December 29, 2022, 01:14:28 AM »
Rumor is that meat will be getting even more expensive shortly.

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #463 on: December 29, 2022, 01:19:34 AM »
You mean it is planned and not based on market conditions?

No. Prices don't usually change overnight. Things like fertilizer, feed, fuel, and transportation can fluctuate from load to load, but consumers don't see prices go up and down daily. If costs continue to rise for manufacturers, they decide to raise their prices. They usually tell their customers in advance that a price increase is coming.
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #464 on: December 29, 2022, 07:49:38 AM »
No. Prices don't usually change overnight. Things like fertilizer, feed, fuel, and transportation can fluctuate from load to load, but consumers don't see prices go up and down daily. If costs continue to rise for manufacturers, they decide to raise their prices. They usually tell their customers in advance that a price increase is coming.
Is this for US meat? South American? Elsewhere?
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #465 on: December 29, 2022, 08:51:17 AM »
A dozen eggs in Seasons, both large and extra large are up to $6.99. Hard to blame them for this particular item; wholesale is now over $5. At this price point it is almost cheaper to order scrambled eggs with a bagel at Bagel Nosh than to make the eggs at home.

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #466 on: December 29, 2022, 08:52:27 AM »
Large eggs are 2.99 at target - it comes out cheaper than Costco.

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #467 on: December 29, 2022, 10:11:28 AM »
Is this for US meat? South American? Elsewhere?

Wasn't told, was pretty ambiguous. That's why I labeled it a rumor and not solid info.
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #468 on: December 29, 2022, 01:29:29 PM »
A dozen eggs in Seasons, both large and extra large are up to $6.99. Hard to blame them for this particular item; wholesale is now over $5. At this price point it is almost cheaper to order scrambled eggs with a bagel at Bagel Nosh than to make the eggs at home.
Seasons is always a bad pricing comparison.

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #469 on: December 29, 2022, 01:57:14 PM »
A dozen eggs in Seasons, both large and extra large are up to $6.99. Hard to blame them for this particular item; wholesale is now over $5. At this price point it is almost cheaper to order scrambled eggs with a bagel at Bagel Nosh than to make the eggs at home.
Same price as pasture raised organic eggs in WF or Wegman's ???
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #470 on: December 29, 2022, 02:36:19 PM »
Same price as pasture raised organic eggs in WF or Wegman's ???
Because of the crazy market dynamics right now organic high and eggs are actually cheaper wholesale than the regular eggs. You will actually see this reflected on the shelf price in many stores.

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #471 on: December 29, 2022, 02:37:33 PM »
Large eggs are 2.99 at target - it comes out cheaper than Costco.
Not in store. It’s still 2.99 on shipt but won’t show as in stock. In store rings up 4.39

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #472 on: December 29, 2022, 03:14:04 PM »
Because of the crazy market dynamics right now organic high and eggs are actually cheaper wholesale than the regular eggs. You will actually see this reflected on the shelf price in many stores.
How does that work? Why aren't they just sold as regular eggs?
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #473 on: December 29, 2022, 05:52:35 PM »
How does that work? Why aren't they just sold as regular eggs?
Im not sure. My guess is that it’s probably different supply chains so you can’t just repack the organic eggs in regular cartons and ship them out. The small price discrepancy probably isn’t enough to make people switch so demand for organic eggs is probably constant. I’m guessing they aren’t as affected by the avian flu outbreak so supply can more readily meet demand. It’s probably also impractical for the bulk consumers of eggs- restaurants, manufacturing plants etc. to switch their suppliers to organic eggs producers. Obviously the longer prices remain elevated the more incentive there will be to switch.

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #474 on: December 29, 2022, 05:56:36 PM »
Is there any practical difference between organic eggs and regular?

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #475 on: December 29, 2022, 05:58:44 PM »
Is there any practical difference between organic eggs and regular?
What the hens are fed.
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #476 on: December 29, 2022, 08:07:45 PM »
What the hens are fed.
I meant for the end user :)

Are there any practical differences in eg taste? Halacha (bloodspots)?

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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #477 on: December 29, 2022, 08:11:19 PM »
I meant for the end user :)

Are there any practical differences in Halacha (bloodspots)?
Organic itself no, but when they're organic, they're often also free range, which have more bloodspots.
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #478 on: December 29, 2022, 08:46:10 PM »
Organic itself no, but when they're organic, they're often also free range, which have more bloodspots.
Organic and free range each independently contribute somewhat to the incidence of blood spots.
Organic hens are often fed varieties of feeds that lead to more blood spots, and free range chickens are exposed to varying temperatures which can also lead to increased blood spots. Scientifically the blood spots we see today, whether on the yolk or the white have nothing to do with fertilized eggs, they are actually simply burst blood vessels in the egg laying process. This is what causes the one or two dots that we see as blood spots.

A fertilized egg has a network of blood vessels running through the yolk. If the embryo dies it can form a kind of ring of blood around the yolk; sometimes the ring can disperse into dots of blood. Those would actually be fertilized egg blood spots. 99% plus of the time today that is not what you are seeing, not even on organic or free range eggs. It’s simply burst blood vessels.

Contrary to popular belief, in just about all egg farming systems, including free-range, cage-free, and organic, male chickens are considered useless. They are all killed at birth, (sometimes by being ground up alive) leaving exclusively female hens on the farm.

Fresher eggs are somewhat more likely to have a blood spot on the yolk; as the egg ages water bleeds into the yolk from the albumen, diluting the blood spot and often diluting small blood spots to the point that they disappear. We all end up eating some blood spots but they aren’t red by that time so aren’t any halachic issue.

By far the greatest determinant of the incidence of blood spots is the fact that all commercially produced eggs are candled. A light shines through the shell exposing any blood spots and those eggs are rejected and never make it to the supermarket. Brown eggs make it harder for the light to make it into the egg, leaving more blood spots that make it through. As many as 5% of brown eggs can contain blood spots. Small organic producers often don’t candle their eggs at all so they will have a high incidence of blood spots that reach the consumer.
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Re: Grocery price discrepancies
« Reply #479 on: January 03, 2023, 12:08:51 AM »
Is $8 for an 8 oz bag of lettuce here to stay?