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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #280 on: February 01, 2024, 01:05:07 PM »
Interesting. Speaking to people who were there, they integrate pretty seamlessly.
Don't know what that means. The Hyatt owns all the restaurants and pays Chabad for hashgocha, which is why they asked the CRC to verify their processes.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #281 on: February 01, 2024, 01:33:14 PM »
Don't know what that means. The Hyatt owns all the restaurants and pays Chabad for hashgocha, which is why they asked the CRC to verify their processes.
Chabad ran minyanim and programs in the hotel and restaurants during yeshiva week.

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #282 on: February 01, 2024, 01:42:18 PM »
Interestingly, there are several Chabad hashgachos listed here:

https://consumer.crckosher.org/acceptable-kashrus-agencies/

What do they do differently?
https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/#110

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #283 on: February 01, 2024, 02:00:53 PM »
Chabad ran minyanim and programs in the hotel and restaurants during yeshiva week.

And therefore? Really unsure of what your point is.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #284 on: February 01, 2024, 02:02:00 PM »
https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/#110

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The onus is on you to prove they don't certify commercially if you're trying to make a point here.

You can email them or the CRC or KQ to ascertain that.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #285 on: February 01, 2024, 02:23:23 PM »
And therefore? Really unsure of what your point is.
Just pointing out that to an outsider is not so obvious that they are separate entities.

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #286 on: February 01, 2024, 02:24:35 PM »
The onus is on you to prove they don't certify commercially if you're trying to make a point here.


Again, to an outsider the distinction is not that apparent (or relevant)

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #287 on: February 01, 2024, 03:05:36 PM »
Just pointing out that to an outsider is not so obvious that they are separate entities.
I don't see how that's possible. It's clearly listed as a hotel restaurant, reservations are made on Hyatt.com, the receipt says the hotel name, and it's charged to your hotel room bill.

Your argument otherwise is that there's a Chabad minyan for Shabbos in the hotel?
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #288 on: February 01, 2024, 03:50:57 PM »
I don't see how that's possible. It's clearly listed as a hotel restaurant, reservations are made on Hyatt.com, the receipt says the hotel name, and it's charged to your hotel room bill.

Your argument otherwise is that there's a Chabad minyan for Shabbos in the hotel?
And they arranged hotel activities during yeshiva week. but I really can't say because I've never been

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #289 on: February 01, 2024, 03:52:52 PM »
What hotel activities? Who arranged?
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #290 on: February 01, 2024, 04:00:08 PM »
What hotel activities? Who arranged?
Chabad did (at least the free kosher popcorn at movie night)


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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #291 on: February 01, 2024, 05:39:46 PM »
https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/#110

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Have you ever seen anything certified by any of these Chabad Houses? I am guessing some of them are there just for people to reach out when they need a local kosher contact. Unless you can show a symbol that says Chabad along with Kosher or Certified or anything of the sort, I don't take these to be kashrus certifications. As I said previously, the name Chabad should generally not be mentioned in a Kashrus certification. If it is, I would be careful and do extra research. One cannot piggyback on Chabad reputation for marketing purposes.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #292 on: February 01, 2024, 05:55:21 PM »
... As I said previously, the name Chabad should generally not be mentioned in a Kashrus certification. If it is, I would be careful and do extra research. One cannot piggyback on Chabad reputation for marketing purposes.
FYI, I'm noticing on the list central California kosher (CCK), here listed as chabad Fresno. They're not the ones calling themselves chabad

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #293 on: February 01, 2024, 06:16:48 PM »
FYI, I'm noticing on the list central California kosher (CCK), here listed as chabad Fresno. They're not the ones calling themselves chabad
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #294 on: February 01, 2024, 07:14:57 PM »
Have you ever seen anything certified by any of these Chabad Houses? I am guessing some of them are there just for people to reach out when they need a local kosher contact. Unless you can show a symbol that says Chabad along with Kosher or Certified or anything of the sort, I don't take these to be kashrus certifications. As I said previously, the name Chabad should generally not be mentioned in a Kashrus certification. If it is, I would be careful and do extra research. One cannot piggyback on Chabad reputation for marketing purposes.


Add an outsider, the distinction is lost

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #295 on: February 01, 2024, 07:34:12 PM »

Add an outsider, the distinction is lost

So just take my word for this as an insider. If a kashrus symbol mentions Chabad - be wary. This doesn't mean that on a one-off event supervision cannot be arranged by a local shliach, but there again you should verify the knowledge and capabilities for the type of event.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #296 on: February 03, 2024, 11:51:58 PM »
Answer from a shliach operating a self certified restaurant in response to the question if  he follows the generally accepted guidelines/method of national agencies (including ok & CHK) for checking produce.... "You think I'm a baal tshuva?"
That's rotten.

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #297 on: February 26, 2024, 02:43:09 PM »
Anyone know the (unofficial?) Chabad in Bocas, Panama?
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #298 on: February 26, 2024, 02:45:06 PM »
Chabad did (at least the free kosher popcorn at movie night)


You think Chabad arranged these activities? Movie night? Pool party? :o
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #299 on: February 28, 2024, 11:34:38 AM »
You think Chabad arranged these activities? Movie night? Pool party? :o
The "worst" stuff that Chabad shows is RebbeVision  ;D