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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #200 on: September 20, 2022, 12:09:29 PM »
You had to type all this while I was typing!

Can we please add a member is typing feature in threads from now on. (I know you can see it here)

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #201 on: September 20, 2022, 12:12:02 PM »

We need to appoint mushroom mods to get the real mods to actually make changes

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #202 on: September 20, 2022, 12:57:10 PM »
@AsherO

Is this some sort of inside-inside-inside joke? :D
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #203 on: September 20, 2022, 12:58:02 PM »
Is this some sort of inside-inside-inside joke? :D
Nope. Just a joke :))
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #204 on: September 20, 2022, 12:59:55 PM »
I did. :D
#MushroomsFTW  ;D
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Halevai that the OGs would want real change. I sure don't want to manage a 35 family house shul!
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #205 on: September 20, 2022, 01:02:41 PM »
Bottom line for me, is would someone dedicate their life to shlichus and live in timbuktu to get Jews there to do more mitzvahs and not be trusted for kashrus?

If they certify or run a restaurant I'd confirm that they would eat there (e.g. the shliach in Singapore said no about Coffee Bean), but that's about it.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #206 on: September 20, 2022, 02:08:32 PM »
Bottom line for me, is would someone dedicate their life to shlichus and live in timbuktu to get Jews there to do more mitzvahs and not be trusted for kashrus?


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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #207 on: September 20, 2022, 03:00:54 PM »
I sure don't want to manage a 35 family house shul!

Maybe if you can be made the Head Mushroom you can manage 35 house shuls.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #208 on: September 20, 2022, 09:02:19 PM »
They hire/appoint Shluchim for the various mosdos and cities within their region. Those Shluchim can in turn hire/appoint Shluchim to run even more local centers or programs/mosdos within that Chabad House.

FTFY

"Hire" implies that they pay their salary. That usually only happens when they bring someone to work within an existing mossad, not when the new shliach is starting a new one

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #209 on: September 20, 2022, 09:27:51 PM »


Bottom line for me, is would someone dedicate their life to shlichus and live in timbuktu to get Jews there to do more mitzvahs and not be trusted for kashrus?

Because their dedication to their shlichus can lead them to be lenient on things that there may be no good reason for me to rely on at that point in time just to not bring did asking with me.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #210 on: September 20, 2022, 09:40:32 PM »
Because their dedication to their shlichus can lead them to be lenient on things that there may be no good reason for me to rely on at that point in time just to not bring did asking with me.

Speaking from personal experience or conjecture?
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #211 on: September 20, 2022, 09:45:11 PM »
Speaking from personal experience or conjecture?
Conjecture from an outsider who may simply not know enough to realize whether the question is silly or not.

In general there can easily be things that someone living somewhere without the same kosher infrastructure may need to rely on that I wouldn't considering that I have that infrastructure.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #212 on: September 20, 2022, 09:55:16 PM »
Conjecture from an outsider who may simply not know enough to realize whether the question is silly or not.
Meh. Shluchim I've visited have gone months since having any meat or milk. When you're going out on mesiras nefesh, you don't compromise on kashrus.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #213 on: September 20, 2022, 10:03:00 PM »
Bottom line for me, is would someone dedicate their life to shlichus and live in timbuktu to get Jews there to do more mitzvahs and not be trusted for kashrus?
When you're going out on merisah nefesh, you don't compromise on kashrus.
I hear ya, and while I'm sure new Shluchim go out for the right reasons, and I'm not CV saying this happens with any actually Shliach, time and circumstances can change & influence people...

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #214 on: September 20, 2022, 10:12:31 PM »
I think something no one could possibly understand is just how hard the life of a shliach is in the middle of nowhere.

If they started to waver in their standards they'd get the heck off shlichus before anything else.

The life of a shliach in the middle of no where especially, is insane. Literally incomprehensible to anyone else.

The only way they are staying on shlichus is if they are beyond careful in halacha and the Rebbe's horaos.

That said everyone is human and I'm of course not saying that these people are beyond reproach or anything, but when you have seen it and experienced what they go through, you get an appreciation for who these people are on a human level, and you can't get that with conjecture.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #215 on: September 20, 2022, 10:17:21 PM »
Meh. Shluchim I've visited have gone months since having any meat or milk. When you're going out on mesiras nefesh, you don't compromise on kashrus.
I think something no one could possibly understand is just how hard the life of a shliach is in the middle of nowhere.

If they started to waver in their standards they'd get the heck off shlichus before anything else.

The life of a shliach in the middle of no where especially, is insane. Literally incomprehensible to anyone else.

The only way they are staying on shlichus is if they are beyond careful in halacha and the Rebbe's horaos.

That said everyone is human and I'm of course not saying that these people are beyond reproach or anything, but when you have seen it and experienced what they go through, you get an appreciation for who these people are on a human level, and you can't get that with conjecture.
But understand why someone may ask the question.

Also, someone in an Middle  type of area may be different in this regard.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #216 on: September 20, 2022, 10:20:24 PM »
But understand why someone may ask the question.

Also, someone in an Middle  type of area may be different in this regard.
Of course someone should ask a question!

If a rosh yeshiva of a famous litvish yeshiva invited a lubab over for shabbos, they'd also ask questions before, is my guess. 

I'm curious if you would. I think at the end of the day, it's likely about who you know and knowing what their standards are.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #217 on: September 20, 2022, 10:23:24 PM »
Of course someone should ask a question!

If a rosh yeshiva of a famous litvish yeshiva invited a lubab over for shabbos, they'd also ask questions before, is my guess. 

I'm curious if you would.
I definitively would because I always do and they would be no different. But that doesn't mean a whole federal investigation.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #218 on: September 20, 2022, 10:25:46 PM »
I definitively would because I always do and they would be no different. But that doesn't mean a whole federal investigation.

I eta'd: I think at the end of the day, it's likely about who you know and knowing what their standards are.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #219 on: September 20, 2022, 10:27:41 PM »
I eta'd: I think at the end of the day, it's likely about who you know and knowing what their standards are.
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