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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #500 on: August 16, 2022, 01:56:39 PM »
Of course not!! You donít lose the freedom to travel without a pen.

This is fake news. I keep pens in my backpacks and carry-ons due to the times I've been stuck in the airport needing to fill out forms and not being able to find a pen.

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #501 on: August 16, 2022, 02:05:23 PM »
Of course not!! You donít lose the freedom to travel without a pen.

Taking a pen would be a infringe on religious liberty, a violation of the commandment "השמר לך פן".

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #502 on: August 16, 2022, 02:09:50 PM »
Trump does not own any pens, the only things the Feds found were boxes of gold sharpies

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #503 on: August 16, 2022, 02:32:38 PM »
Ahh you are picking on the word stolen. LOL. So petty.

Was the seizure of the passports authorized by the search warrant? IINAL, but based on my reading of the warrant the only way they would be is if they were stored together with things that they were authorized to take.

If not, why would this not be considered "stolen"?

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #504 on: August 16, 2022, 02:34:15 PM »
You are the one reporting they were stolen.
Where?
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #505 on: August 16, 2022, 02:35:34 PM »
Where?
You keep posting the media account. You reported the media said...
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #506 on: August 16, 2022, 02:36:14 PM »
You keep posting the media account. You reported the media said...

But where did I report it was stolen?
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #507 on: August 16, 2022, 02:43:55 PM »
But where did I report it was stolen?
Wait, so they weren't stolen?
You tried to pass off the media account as if the FBI said it and I called you out on it.


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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #508 on: August 16, 2022, 02:54:57 PM »
Wait, so they weren't stolen?
You tried to pass off the media account as if the FBI said it and I called you out on it.




That they had it. The only ones who said stolen were Trump and you.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #509 on: August 16, 2022, 02:59:08 PM »
...or the source could be mistaken thinking if it isn't listed then they don't have it. My point from the beginning is you have no statement from the DOJ/FBI on this. Do you really want to use what the media reports as official statements from the FBI/DOJ?
You have claimed in the past that Trump made derogatory statements about US soldiers based solely on an anonymous source quoted in the press. Were you lying then?
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #510 on: August 16, 2022, 03:01:07 PM »
That they had it. The only ones who said stolen were Trump and you.
As we ended the other thread by both agreeing the Muller investigation was not a hoax let's see if we can do the same here.

There is no evidence that anything was stolen, including passports. The DOJ/FBI never released any statement claiming they didn't have the passports. Can we agree on those two things and end this?
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #511 on: August 16, 2022, 03:02:26 PM »
As we ended the other thread by both agreeing the Muller investigation was not a hoax let's see if we can do the same here.

There is no evidence that anything was stolen, including passports. The DOJ/FBI never released any statement claiming they didn't have the passports. Can we agree on those two things and end this?

Fine ::)

I will even agree that it is summer now if you want.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #512 on: August 16, 2022, 03:03:56 PM »
You have claimed in the past that Trump made derogatory statements about US soldiers based solely on an anonymous source quoted in the press. Were you lying then?
Actually he made derogatory statements about our brave soldiers on live TV. There are also direct quotes from others about his derogatory statements about the military. Nothing anonymous there.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #513 on: August 16, 2022, 03:04:32 PM »
Fine ::)
You just want to play your silly games.  ::)
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #514 on: August 16, 2022, 03:05:08 PM »
Actually he made derogatory statements about our brave soldiers on live TV. There are also direct quotes from others about his derogatory statements about the military. Nothing anonymous there.
Source? I didnít know that.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #515 on: August 16, 2022, 03:07:14 PM »
As we ended the other thread by both agreeing the Muller investigation was not a hoax let's see if we can do the same here.

There is no evidence that anything was stolen, including passports. The DOJ/FBI never released any statement claiming they didn't have the passports. Can we agree on those two things and end this?
BUT

Trump claimed the DOJ wrongfully took his passports. CBS quoted a DOJ official seemingly denying that. It appears that the quoted official was lying and Trumpís passports were indeed wrongfully seized. Furthermore, there is indeed evidence from an email that the passports were stolen (as wrongfully seizing = stealing).

Can we agree on that and end this?

Illegally seizing an ex-Presidentís diplomatic passports isnít like taking a pen or paper clip. Itís likely a prosecutable offense.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #516 on: August 16, 2022, 03:10:02 PM »
Source? I didnít know that.
You are joking, I hope. He called those who get captured losers including war hero John McCain.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #517 on: August 16, 2022, 03:10:48 PM »
You are joking, I hope. He called those who get captured losers including war hero John McCain.
Youíre right, he did say that about McCain. That was very wrong of him.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #518 on: August 16, 2022, 03:17:27 PM »
Youíre right, he did say that about McCain. That was very wrong of him.
To set the record right the word "loser" was referring to his WH run but he still made the derogatory statement about McCain being captured.

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #519 on: August 16, 2022, 04:10:14 PM »
BUT

Trump claimed the DOJ wrongfully took his passports. CBS quoted a DOJ official seemingly denying that. It appears that the quoted official was lying and Trumpís passports were indeed wrongfully seized. Furthermore, there is indeed evidence from an email that the passports were stolen (as wrongfully seizing = stealing).

Can we agree on that and end this?

Illegally seizing an ex-Presidentís diplomatic passports isnít like taking a pen or paper clip. Itís likely a prosecutable offense.
There is no evidence the passports were stolen. The DOJ/FBI did not comment on the situation at all. We seem to have many experts here on what the search warrant did and didn't cover. At this point the only side caught in lies several times is the Trump side.   
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