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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #180 on: August 16, 2022, 07:56:22 PM »
If it's set up in a way that if there would be fraud, it would not be discoverable; How can the lack of evidence give us any indication of what did or didn't take place?
People are stupid. They would get caught right away.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #181 on: August 16, 2022, 07:56:56 PM »
If you don't understand how voter suppression works then that's your problem.
Explain it to us.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #182 on: August 16, 2022, 08:01:45 PM »
Explain it to us.
Voter suppression: A strategy used to influence the outcome of an election by discouraging or preventing specific groups of people from voting.

Removing drop boxes claiming you don't have the money to monitor all of them. Just happens the majority being removed happen to be in minority neighborhoods.

Early voting is ok but not on Sundays because we don't have the people. Sunday is big voting days when some minorities go to church and vote.

The list goes on and on but those that won't speak out about the big lie it won't matter.

ETA: Many states are putting new restrictions on early and mail in voting. This isn't because there was widespread voting fraud but because of the big lie.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #183 on: August 16, 2022, 08:23:04 PM »
Let’s have secure elections!
Nobody disagrees. What do you suggest needs to be done to ensure elections are secure?

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #184 on: August 16, 2022, 08:33:05 PM »
Let’s have secure elections!
Was the 2020 election secure?
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #185 on: August 16, 2022, 08:36:54 PM »
Was the 2020 election secure?
No! How many people did or did not take advantage of the lack of secureness in the election is separate question.
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #186 on: August 16, 2022, 08:42:30 PM »
No! How many people did or did not take advantage of the lack of secureness in the election is separate question.
Then no election will ever be secure.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #187 on: August 16, 2022, 08:43:42 PM »
It is more than that. None of them were ever registered to vote at my current address. My BIL stayed by me for a few months about 15 years ago at an old address and we lived there for a number of years after he got married and is now living in NMB for a while. He never registered or filled anything out to move a registration to my current address. I had filled out a change of address for my parents after they were niftar but did not check off to change voter registration.
I've recently had 7 mail in ballots sent to me for old tenants, including non US citizen minors

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #188 on: August 16, 2022, 08:44:53 PM »
Nobody disagrees. What do you suggest needs to be done to ensure elections are secure?
Photo ID and social security number would be a nice start.
Is there any government office, or private business, that does less than that?

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #189 on: August 16, 2022, 08:45:52 PM »
Then no election will ever be secure.
Unless we have voter ID, paper ballots and election day in-person only voting.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #190 on: August 16, 2022, 08:47:38 PM »
Nobody disagrees. What do you suggest needs to be done to ensure elections are secure?
whatever you do to make it secure will exclude someone (assuming the exclusion bar is so that id is considered exclusionary)

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2022, 08:47:55 PM »
Unless we have voter ID, paper ballots and election day in-person only voting.
Then how are minorities supposed to cheat?!  :P

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2022, 08:50:31 PM »
Unless we have voter ID, paper ballots and election day in-person only voting.
ID's like a driver license can be forged so that won't work.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #193 on: August 16, 2022, 08:50:38 PM »
ETA: Many states are putting new restrictions on early and mail in voting. This isn't because there was widespread voting fraud but because of the big lie.
Which is enabled by lack of secure elections, and therefore they are trying to - secure the election system. But they are being hounded by Democrats who somehow convinced themselves that secure elections is nonsense and partisan.
The overwhelming majority of the country disagree.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #194 on: August 16, 2022, 08:51:07 PM »
ID's like a driver license can be forged so that won't work.
Cmon man!

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #195 on: August 16, 2022, 08:51:11 PM »
Then how are minorities non citizens supposed to cheat?!  :P
7 of them can use the mail in ballots I have

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #196 on: August 16, 2022, 08:52:48 PM »
ID's like a driver license can be forged so that won't work.
+100 we shouldn't use them for travel either. In fact get rid of the id requirement for travel all together.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #197 on: August 16, 2022, 08:54:00 PM »
Which is enabled by lack of secure elections,
You keep ignoring the fact this was all a result of the big lie. Why do you refuse to address the big lie? No matter how secure the last election was these MAGA cult members will believe the big lie.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #198 on: August 16, 2022, 08:55:04 PM »
+100 we shouldn't use them for travel either. In fact get rid of the id requirement for travel all together.
People board planes as other people all the time so what is your point?
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #199 on: August 16, 2022, 08:56:00 PM »
People board planes as other people all the time so what is your point?
That obviously it doesn’t work, so get rid of it.