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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #160 on: August 16, 2022, 06:02:33 PM »
Also, many forms of fraud are difficult if not impossible to detect after the fact.
Especially when it is made up.
Can you say ED?  :)
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #161 on: August 16, 2022, 06:05:33 PM »
Let's say @aygart sent in all those ballots, how would anyone be able to figure out if they were counted or not?

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #162 on: August 16, 2022, 06:11:15 PM »
I'm not familiar with this area of knowledge at all, but when I google Dinesh D’Souza I find that he was pardoned by Trump for a felony conviction for illegal campaign contributions, so not sure I would use him as a source. 

There's a whole field of Poli Sci - Don't those people research this very question?
It is not like you to go by ad-hominem attacks like this.

I don't think this is the major part of Poli-sci
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #163 on: August 16, 2022, 06:12:44 PM »
Let's say @aygart sent in all those ballots, how would anyone be able to figure out if they were counted or not?
Exactly, I have the same question.
But I see it as a question to ask, a reason to google how voter fraud is detected (as it was in that database above).  Not as a reason to conclude that there's fraud.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #164 on: August 16, 2022, 06:19:20 PM »
It is not like you to go by ad-hominem attacks like this.
Would pointing out he is a right-wing conspiracy theorist be an ad-hominem attack?
How about his de-bunked 2000 Mules movie?
This guy has zero credibility.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #165 on: August 16, 2022, 06:20:01 PM »
It is not like you to go by ad-hominem attacks like this.
It really annoys me when people say "It's not like you" as if they know all about me based on a few posts here and there.  But this time I admit you're right.  I do try to criticize the argument, not the person.  However as I said, I am not familiar with the argument and you haven't presented his argument, so all I had was the name of the person to go on.  I don't feel that I should be the one to do the research to figure out what the argument is, what his theories are, what his evidence is.

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I don't think this is the major part of Poli-sci
Every serious political scientist finds a different area to specialize in and to research, so I'm sure there are some who are studying voter fraud.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2022, 06:26:22 PM »
It really annoys me when people say "It's not like you" as if they know all about me based on a few posts here and there.  But this time I admit you're right.  I do try to criticize the argument, not the person.  However as I said, I am not familiar with the argument and you haven't presented his argument, so all I had was the name of the person to go on.  I don't feel that I should be the one to do the research to figure out what the argument is, what his theories are, what his evidence is.
Every serious political scientist finds a different area to specialize in and to research, so I'm sure there are some who are studying voter fraud.

This is the film site https://2000mules.com/

I don't think the evidence is anywhere close to adequate based on the good reasoning the fact checkers have presented.
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2022, 06:27:18 PM »
It really annoys me when people say "It's not like you" as if they know all about me based on a few posts here and there.  But this time I admit you're right.  I do try to criticize the argument, not the person.  However as I said, I am not familiar with the argument and you haven't presented his argument, so all I had was the name of the person to go on.  I don't feel that I should be the one to do the research to figure out what the argument is, what his theories are, what his evidence is.
Every serious political scientist finds a different area to specialize in and to research, so I'm sure there are some who are studying voter fraud.
this one might be a challenge afaik this is the first election to have this issue at such scale.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #168 on: August 16, 2022, 06:37:14 PM »
this one might be a challenge afaik this is the first election to have this issue at such scale.
What do you base this knowledge on?

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #169 on: August 16, 2022, 06:40:10 PM »
What do you base this knowledge on?

Mail in ballots

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #170 on: August 16, 2022, 06:47:14 PM »
Mail in ballots
There was large scale fraud with mail in ballots?
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #171 on: August 16, 2022, 06:48:24 PM »

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #172 on: August 16, 2022, 06:49:02 PM »
Let's say @aygart sent in all those ballots, how would anyone be able to figure out if they were counted or not?
There was large scale fraud with mail in ballots?
I think that everyone agrees there is some fraud in every election. The question is if there was system-wide fraud, large enough to sway the result.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #173 on: August 16, 2022, 06:50:32 PM »
There was large scale fraud with mail in ballots?

Geez. We're discussing studying it to find out.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #174 on: August 16, 2022, 06:51:35 PM »
I think that everyone agrees there is some fraud in every election. The question is if there was system-wide fraud, large enough to sway the result.
That is my point. There was no large-scale fraud found in the last election. When was the last national election that had wide-spread fraud?
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #175 on: August 16, 2022, 06:52:35 PM »
Geez. We're discussing studying it to find out.
Sorry as I thought the numerous court rulings would give us an indication.
Should we discuss Utah's mail in voting?
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #176 on: August 16, 2022, 06:55:52 PM »
If it's set up in a way that if there would be fraud, it would not be discoverable; How can the lack of evidence give us any indication of what did or didn't take place?
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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #177 on: August 16, 2022, 07:28:19 PM »
The very fact that it’s so easy to commit voter fraud, regardless to what level it occurs, is problematic. It enables people to make these claims which undermine election integrity. We live in 2022. Stop the BS about voter suppression because some people aren’t motivated enough to vote. Let’s have secure elections!

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #178 on: August 16, 2022, 07:37:07 PM »
The very fact that it’s so easy to commit voter fraud, regardless to what level it occurs, is problematic. It enables people to make these claims which undermine election integrity. We live in 2022. Stop the BS about voter suppression because some people aren’t motivated enough to vote. Let’s have secure elections!
Whoever still believes this won’t stop it. It’s a mental block. People believe what is convenient for them or their “party”. It can go both ways, but here it’s with the Democrats.

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Re: Are you an election denier?
« Reply #179 on: August 16, 2022, 07:55:32 PM »
The very fact that it’s so easy to commit voter fraud, regardless to what level it occurs, is problematic. It enables people to make these claims which undermine election integrity. We live in 2022. Stop the BS about voter suppression because some people aren’t motivated enough to vote. Let’s have secure elections!
If you don't understand how voter suppression works then that's your problem. We have the big lie that has done more to erode the trust in our elections but let's not address that. ROFLMAO!!!
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