Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[CountValentine]

At least 40 killed in unprecedented Hamas attack in Israel; prime minister says country is "at war"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-attack-hamas-unprecedented-rocket-invasion/

[yfr bachur]

Vayidom Aharon.

There are no words.

[CountValentine]

https://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1710650351420891589

[tavster]

Extremely sad day 

[CountValentine]

Israeli Prime Minister tells Biden Israel will have to undertake a major military campaign
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israeli-prime-minister-tells-biden-israel-will-have-to-undertake-a-major-military-campaign/ar-AA1hQGzs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=82a470c11d5847338327b22136c9579a&ei=9

[CountValentine]

At least 40 killed in unprecedented Hamas attack in Israel; prime minister says country is "at war"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-attack-hamas-unprecedented-rocket-invasion/

Numbers are a lot worse than first being reported.

Israel at War: More than 300 dead and IDF fights back
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-07/live-updates-762053

[yfr bachur]

Numbers are a lot worse than first being reported.

Israel at War: More than 300 dead and IDF fights back
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-07/live-updates-762053

The current numbers from hebrew language sources are over 300 dead, 1600 wounded, + scores of captives (theyre not disclosing and exact number, but from the way theyre talking its 100+) dragged back to gaza: men women and children! babies...senior citzens...

[CountValentine]

The current numbers from hebrew language sources are over 300 dead, 1600 wounded, + scores of captives (theyre not disclosing and exact number, but from the way theyre talking its 100+) dragged back to gaza: men women and children! babies...senior citzens...

Horrific!!!

[mevinyavin]

In the words of the Bee:



It's a pity that THERE is where honest news resides sometimes.

[Proisrael]

The largest failure in Israels history when it pertains to intelligince, the army, the airforce, the politicians. I honestly feel like Bibi has had a stroke and is incabable of dealing with this the right way. Benny Gantz needs to be immideately sworn in as Prime Minister and Defense minister. Every head of every branch in the army needs to be publicly humilated de-ranked and sent to watch the birds in Mitzpe Rimon.
We are almost 36 hours into this butchery and terrorists are still roaming free in the south and Israel has yet to inflict a .10 of damage to Gaza. The army and police force are like chickens without a head.
This may very well be the worst destruction since the Shoah.

[flyagain]

Please do not post graphic content that maybe disturbing

[Moshe Green]

The largest failure in Israels history when it pertains to intelligince, the army, the airforce, the politicians. I honestly feel like Bibi has had a stroke and is incabable of dealing with this the right way. Benny Gantz needs to be immideately sworn in as Prime Minister and Defense minister. Every head of every branch in the army needs to be publicly humilated de-ranked and sent to watch the birds in Mitzpe Rimon.
We are almost 36 hours into this butchery and terrorists are still roaming free in the south and Israel has yet to inflict a .10 of damage to Gaza. The army and police force are like chickens without a head.
This may very well be the worst destruction since the Shoah.

Uh...
I don't think this is the right time to talk like this...

[tavster]

The largest failure in Israels history when it pertains to intelligince, the army, the airforce, the politicians. I honestly feel like Bibi has had a stroke and is incabable of dealing with this the right way. Benny Gantz needs to be immideately sworn in as Prime Minister and Defense minister. Every head of every branch in the army needs to be publicly humilated de-ranked and sent to watch the birds in Mitzpe Rimon.
We are almost 36 hours into this butchery and terrorists are still roaming free in the south and Israel has yet to inflict a .10 of damage to Gaza. The army and police force are like chickens without a head.
This may very well be the worst destruction since the Shoah.

Uh...
I don't think this is the right time to talk like this...

Even if you put the politics aside and you dont want to point figers for now. The fact that no one saw it coming and that they still havent eliminated all the terrorists on Israel territory is genuinely scary. I used to have full faith in our Intelligence and IDF - that's no longer the case AFAIC.

[CountValentine]

...still havent eliminated all the terrorists on Israel territory is genuinely scary.

This.

[CountValentine]

Death Toll Leaps to 600, Some Hostages Freed While Others Remain
https://www.jewishexponent.com/death-toll-leaps-to-600-some-hostages-freed-while-others-remain-as-hamas-attack-enters-second-day/

[Proisrael]

This.

Not only that they havent been eliminated they are moving north!! It is as if the army/police are allowing these bastards to just move free at will!! Freaking babies and grandmas kidnapped and the army is still knocking on the roofs of these terrorists and calling them to leave before they bomb them!!

[Proisrael]

Uh...
I don't think this is the right time to talk like this...

So you think we should allow these "leaders" to continue in the roles they have?

[Moshe Green]

So you think we should allow these "leaders" to continue in the roles they have?

Oh, i definitely believe that some heads need to roll. There was a huge mess up here.
But lets wait until the war is over before we start the blame game.
After that we can start our infighting again. 

[Proisrael]

Oh, i definitely believe that some heads need to roll. There was a huge mess up here.
But lets wait until the war is over before we start the blame game.
After that we can start our infighting again. 

So you trust these people to make the right decisions going forward? My point is based on their past performances they should be gone now.

[Mareh Makom]

Reporting from ramat eshkol. Saw iron dome intercepting missiles after shachris on shabbos morning, sirens were going off as well, since then its been quite