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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2300 on: October 19, 2023, 09:46:33 AM »
She is calling it a war crime.
Can it be a war crime if it was an accident? I took it as it can only be a war crime if it was a deliberate shot by Israel. Don't hold your breath for that independent investigation and a follow up from her after that, her mission was accomplished and as Hamas's North American public relations Chief she'd very much like to move on to the next propaganda scam
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2301 on: October 19, 2023, 09:48:45 AM »
Scotland's First Minister Humza Yousaf said the U.K. country is willing to take Gaza refugees amid the war between Hamas and Israel. Yousaf noted in a recent speech that his wife, Nadia El-Nakla, is Scottish Palestinian and has family living in Gaza.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/4262981-scotlands-first-minister-says-country-willing-to-take-gaza-refugees/
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2302 on: October 19, 2023, 09:49:53 AM »
This time it's easy for everyone. English subtitles (I didn't check for accuracy, too small for me to read on a phone).


The original is much better than the translation.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2303 on: October 19, 2023, 09:50:36 AM »
I can't even fathom what they're going through. Kfar Aza is across the road. No doubt entire families of close friends were wiped out. I can't bring myself to ask them for the gory details when they haven't volunteered them.

There is this Wikipedia draft without sources
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%98%D7%99%D7%95%D7%98%D7%94:%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%91_%D7%A1%D7%A2%D7%93
Same goes for any journalist, no?

But the world wants to hear the story. CNN TV has done an incredible job getting the stories out, though there's very little said about Sa'ad.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2304 on: October 19, 2023, 09:51:07 AM »
She certainly doesn't help sell the narrative that not all Palestinians support Hamas.

In the same breath, she explains how these brutal terror attacks were simply part of the resistance ,and moraly equivalent, to follow with her "concern" that this will be used to " label and malign" t Palestinians.

I'm at a losss for words. How twisted can people really be in their logic?




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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2305 on: October 19, 2023, 09:51:55 AM »
How twisted can people really be in their logic?
Yes.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2306 on: October 19, 2023, 09:54:32 AM »
Anyone with an update at the "attacked Gaza hospital with 500 dead"? What is the situation with the wounded? Is the death tool still at "approximately 477"? Is the hospital structure already safe for inspection? What about the surviving patients, were they safely relocated to other hospitals in the region?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2307 on: October 19, 2023, 09:55:07 AM »
The original is much better than the translation.

As is unfortunately often the case with JEM
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2308 on: October 19, 2023, 09:57:28 AM »
Ironic how she mentions "twitter misinformation" as if MSM didn't air this immediately thereafter with zero evidence but statements by the C level execs of Hamas Benevolent Beheading Services Inc.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2309 on: October 19, 2023, 10:02:33 AM »
IDF: delaying  the ground invasion will tire out Hamas, terrorist leaders are eliminated after they make mistakes, terrorists are being killed in properties being wiped out every hour. The invasion will follow.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2310 on: October 19, 2023, 10:06:21 AM »
IDF: delaying  the ground invasion will tire out Hamas, terrorist leaders are eliminated after they make mistakes, terrorists are being killed in properties being wiped out every hour. The invasion will follow.
Doesn't it also tire out the reservists?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2311 on: October 19, 2023, 10:09:50 AM »
Doesn't it also tire out the reservists?
Yup. That's beside that the entire country and economy is on hold right now

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2312 on: October 19, 2023, 10:10:53 AM »
Doesn't it also tire out the reservists?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2314 on: October 19, 2023, 10:14:49 AM »
She is calling it a war crime.

Since when is a malfunction a war crime?

It wasn't even fired from within a living civilian population. It was fired from a cemetery.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2315 on: October 19, 2023, 10:15:01 AM »
Doesn't it also tire out the reservists?
If they know that they are not moving at the moment, they know that they dont have to be at the height of razor sharp alertness, especially if the yknow that they are part of a later wave.
The terrorist has no idea when the invasion will start, so they have to keep up 24/7 major event surge alertness and manning - which cannot be maintained for any length of time.
The real effect in IL of the wait is:
...the entire country and economy is on hold right now

Tons of small businesses are shut bec the owner is in Miluim. - I needed a locksmith this week. My wife went downstairs to get my son from someone who was dropping him off, and she locked the door behind her so that my 2yr old wouldn't open the door and run outside.  When she came upstairs - the lock was broken, and she couldn't open it. We waited close to three hours for an available  locksmith - with a 2yr old and 1yr old stuck inside.
In the end yedidim found someone who basically broke the door down.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2317 on: October 19, 2023, 10:17:08 AM »
Since when is a malfunction a war crime?

It wasn't even fired from within a living civilian population. It was fired from a cemetery.
You're allowed to indiscriminately fire rockets at a civilian population in war?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2318 on: October 19, 2023, 10:17:48 AM »
If they know that they are not moving at the moment, they know that they dont have to be at the height of razor sharp alertness, especially if the yknow that they are part of a later wave.
The terrorist has no idea when the invasion will start, so they have to keep up 24/7 major event surge alertness and manning - which cannot be maintained for any length of time.

When you have 10x+ the manpower (and that’s just the 7.5% of reservists that were called up) then it’s easier to do.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2319 on: October 19, 2023, 10:17:51 AM »
All this "extensive network of tunnels" talk brought me back to the Tora Bora days. Ironically, we ended up finding him living out in the open, not buried deep into a mountain.