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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1059521 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9940 on: April 13, 2024, 10:29:53 PM »
No expertise on this side either, but there were likely no "returning" Iranian planes, Iran just sent missiles and drones, they obviously didn't and wouldn't dare to bomb directly with their jets. Also, no way a single disguised Israeli jet can do anything to Iran's nuclear facilities deep down underground, a whole squadron of heavy bombers loaded with bunker busters if anything.
indeed. I was just putting in some red herring in case Iran was monitoring my posts...

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9941 on: April 13, 2024, 10:32:22 PM »
This was too unprecedented for a coordinated attack that is just lip service. As I just heard a commentator said, that’s the attitude that brought us October 7th, and Iran is working on nuclear capabilities, they need a strong enough response to deter them in the future.
Punkt Farkert. As you just said, Iran has the capabilities to send a much larger barrage which would have definitely overwhelmed the Israeli defense systems if they would have chosen to go that route. They obviously chose not to do that and go the lip service route to try and claim a political win without causing a wider conflict. As we know right now there was not a single casualty in Israel.

Doing what you suggest will not end pretty for either side and neither side wants it.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9942 on: April 13, 2024, 10:34:42 PM »
Punkt Farkert. As you just said, Iran has the capabilities to send a much larger barrage which would have definitely overwhelmed the Israeli defense systems if they would have chosen to go that route. They obviously chose not to do that and go the lip service route to try and claim a political win without causing a wider conflict. As we know right now there was not a single casualty in Israel.

Doing what you suggest will not end pretty for either side and neither side wants it.
I think that Iran is purposefully trying to calm the tensions because they are afraid of an attack against their nuclear projects. They are just biding them time until they complete their bombs and can go big. I don't think it's so simple that Israel should just take the bait and back off.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9944 on: April 13, 2024, 10:45:48 PM »
Punkt Farkert. As you just said, Iran has the capabilities to send a much larger barrage which would have definitely overwhelmed the Israeli defense systems if they would have chosen to go that route. They obviously chose not to do that and go the lip service route to try and claim a political win without causing a wider conflict. As we know right now there was not a single casualty in Israel.

Doing what you suggest will not end pretty for either side and neither side wants it.

The only thing I agree with you about is that we disagree :P
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9945 on: April 13, 2024, 10:47:21 PM »
The only thing I agree with you about is that we disagree :P

So where exactly are you between him and this? :)

Iran needs to tread lightly or Theran will get wiped off the face of the planet.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9947 on: April 13, 2024, 10:51:07 PM »
So where exactly are you between him and this? :)

Things would look much worse for Teheran if their attack tonight was R”L successful. If Israel hits Iran in its ability to export oil, that could threaten the Iranian regime.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9948 on: April 13, 2024, 11:04:08 PM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9949 on: April 13, 2024, 11:04:26 PM »
What did he say

“Earlier today, Iran—and its proxies operating out of Yemen, Syria and Iraq—launched an unprecedented air attack against military facilities in Israel. I condemn these attacks in the strongest possible terms.

At my direction, to support the defense of Israel, the U.S. military moved aircraft and ballistic missile defense destroyers to the region over the course of the past week.  Thanks to these deployments and the extraordinary skill of our servicemembers, we helped Israel take down nearly all of the incoming drones and missiles.

I’ve just spoken with Prime Minister Netanyahu to reaffirm America’s ironclad commitment to the security of Israel.  I told him that Israel demonstrated a remarkable capacity to defend against and defeat even unprecedented attacks – sending a clear message to its foes that they cannot effectively threaten the security of Israel.

Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack.  My team will engage with their counterparts across the region.  And we will stay in close touch with Israel’s leaders.  And while we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today, we will remain vigilant to all threats and will not hesitate to take all necessary action to protect our people.”

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9950 on: April 13, 2024, 11:18:19 PM »
"Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack.  My team will engage with their counterparts across the region.  And we will stay in close touch with Israel’s leaders.  And while we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today, we will remain vigilant to all threats and will not hesitate to take all necessary action to protect our people.”

The ONLY response now is a strong military response. Iran needs to be crushed. Enough with the diplomatic responses.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9951 on: April 13, 2024, 11:23:04 PM »
Biden told Bibi to take tonight as a win and that the US won't be involved in any attack against Iran.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9952 on: April 13, 2024, 11:24:37 PM »
The ONLY response now is a strong military response. Iran needs to be crushed. Enough with the diplomatic responses.
And what about missiles coming crashing down in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv r"l? Iran is no Hamas...
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9953 on: April 13, 2024, 11:25:21 PM »
Iran's ego is likely already crushed, such a failed attack, both in the amount of missiles/drones used and that almost nothing penetrated to cause any damage.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9954 on: April 13, 2024, 11:27:22 PM »
“Earlier today, Iran—and its proxies operating out of Yemen, Syria and Iraq—launched an unprecedented air attack against military facilities in Israel. I condemn these attacks in the strongest possible terms.

At my direction, to support the defense of Israel, the U.S. military moved aircraft and ballistic missile defense destroyers to the region over the course of the past week.  Thanks to these deployments and the extraordinary skill of our servicemembers, we helped Israel take down nearly all of the incoming drones and missiles.

I’ve just spoken with Prime Minister Netanyahu to reaffirm America’s ironclad commitment to the security of Israel.  I told him that Israel demonstrated a remarkable capacity to defend against and defeat even unprecedented attacks – sending a clear message to its foes that they cannot effectively threaten the security of Israel.

Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack.  My team will engage with their counterparts across the region.  And we will stay in close touch with Israel’s leaders.  And while we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today, we will remain vigilant to all threats and will not hesitate to take all necessary action to protect our people.”

seriously??

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9955 on: April 13, 2024, 11:29:55 PM »
Biden and Iran are now on the same page, both want the matter to be deemed concluded.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9956 on: April 13, 2024, 11:44:35 PM »
“Earlier today, Iran—and its proxies operating out of Yemen, Syria and Iraq—launched an unprecedented air attack against military facilities in Israel. I condemn these attacks in the strongest possible terms.

At my direction, to support the defense of Israel, the U.S. military moved aircraft and ballistic missile defense destroyers to the region over the course of the past week.  Thanks to these deployments and the extraordinary skill of our servicemembers, we helped Israel take down nearly all of the incoming drones and missiles.

I’ve just spoken with Prime Minister Netanyahu to reaffirm America’s ironclad commitment to the security of Israel.  I told him that Israel demonstrated a remarkable capacity to defend against and defeat even unprecedented attacks – sending a clear message to its foes that they cannot effectively threaten the security of Israel.

Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack.  My team will engage with their counterparts across the region.  And we will stay in close touch with Israel’s leaders.  And while we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today, we will remain vigilant to all threats and will not hesitate to take all necessary action to protect our people.”

That’s a statement, not a readout of the call.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9957 on: April 13, 2024, 11:45:30 PM »
Biden told Bibi to take tonight as a win and that the US won't be involved in any attack against Iran.

That’s fine. As long as they won’t stop Israel, the IDF can manage attacking Iran on its own.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9958 on: April 13, 2024, 11:49:38 PM »
the US won't be involved in any attack against Iran.
Iran breathing a sigh of relief.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9959 on: April 14, 2024, 12:02:44 AM »
That’s fine. As long as they won’t stop Israel, the IDF can manage attacking Iran on its own.
I don't think Israel can attack their nuclear facilities without US help.
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