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Author Topic: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?  (Read 126118 times)

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #360 on: February 10, 2017, 01:13:02 AM »
Just came across this.

All you have to write is that ticket is defective.
Wow you must have had trouble falling asleep going back so far in the thread!
 That ticket for $35 was long paid for they didn't buy any of my excuses as far as I can remember,i don't think it was dismissed.
 Good to know for the future, thanks for the reply though, better late then ever. ;)
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #361 on: February 10, 2017, 01:24:38 AM »
This thread should be labeled "How to whine about tickets and then eventually pay them in NY. "
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #362 on: February 10, 2017, 02:16:32 AM »
This thread should be labeled "How to whine about tickets and then eventually pay them in NY. "
You mean re-labeled . Lol
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #363 on: February 15, 2017, 04:35:24 PM »
Just got in the mail a bus lane camera ticket for $115 at Nostrand and Ave D.

The bus lane is in effect until 7pm and the ticket was issued at 6:58:43PM!

How can I get this ticket dismissed based on the time being so close to 7pm? I recall seeing elsewhere that within 5 minutes, tickets are not issued. Apparently that isn't the case with camera tickets, but it seems I should have a good case being within 2 minutes of 7pm.
Any ideas how how to word the dispute for the best chance of dismissal? (I have not had much success with disputing in the past...)
The registrant of the vehicle identified in the Notice of Liability has been charged with violating New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law
section 1111-c, because the operator of the vehicle stood, parked or entered a bus lane during the restricted hours and did not make
an immediate right hand turn. Claim that the violation occurred "just shy of 7:00 p.m." when the regulation expired, is not a valid defense to the violation charged. The record is reviewed and considered. Guilty.

 >:( >:( >:(
I hate this city!!

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #364 on: February 15, 2017, 06:58:13 PM »
The registrant of the vehicle identified in the Notice of Liability has been charged with violating New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law
section 1111-c, because the operator of the vehicle stood, parked or entered a bus lane during the restricted hours and did not make
an immediate right hand turn. Claim that the violation occurred "just shy of 7:00 p.m." when the regulation expired, is not a valid defense to the violation charged. The record is reviewed and considered. Guilty.

 >:( >:( >:(
I hate this city!!
Really didn't believe that was going to happen!
I would definitely appeal it one more time, and express yourself more..
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #365 on: February 15, 2017, 08:26:32 PM »
Really didn't believe that was going to happen!
I would definitely appeal it one more time, and express yourself more..
Say that it was 7:01 on your car's clock etc.

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #366 on: February 15, 2017, 08:43:12 PM »
Say that it was 7:01 on your car's clock etc.
It seems that it was already claimed otherwise...
Claim that the violation occurred "just shy of 7:00 p.m."
And anyway I doubt that would would work regardless..

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #367 on: February 16, 2017, 12:23:51 AM »
It seems that it was already claimed otherwise...And anyway I doubt that would would work regardless..

he never said his clock was 7:01 he claimed that in actuality he was shy but
Speak and say I know inn reality I was shy of 7 but my watch clock car etc is not set to atomic time and hence the 2 min error
How are you required to have atomic time in a car that has a analog clock?

Clearly this should be over ruled since it was out of your control.
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #368 on: February 16, 2017, 03:16:54 AM »
he never said his clock was 7:01 he claimed that in actuality he was shy but
Speak and say I know inn reality I was shy of 7 but my watch clock car etc is not set to atomic time and hence the 2 min error
How are you required to have atomic time in a car that has a analog clock?

Clearly this should be over ruled since it was out of your control.
Couldn't agree more, is one required to pull out his phone while driving and check the time to see if he's allowed to enter the bus lane?  (you use your car clock and hope it doesn't jump minutes.)
 To top it all the bus lane camera for all you know is delayed 2 minutes.. having a lawyer on such a case would of had it dismissed long ago!
 
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #369 on: February 16, 2017, 08:43:15 AM »
Couldn't agree more, is one required to pull out his phone while driving and check the time to see if he's allowed to enter the bus lane?  (you use your car clock and hope it doesn't jump minutes.)
 To top it all the bus lane camera for all you know is delayed 2 minutes.. having a lawyer on such a case would of had it dismissed long ago!
Are you serious? A lawyer for a camera ticket? There are no points with those tickets, it's all about generating revenue for the city without raising taxes.

How much would you have to pay a lawyer to get a $50 (IINM) ticket dismissed?

ETA: I know someone who works on getting tickets dismissed, he charges 50% of fine if successful, and nothing if not successful.
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #370 on: February 16, 2017, 09:10:00 AM »
The registrant of the vehicle identified in the Notice of Liability has been charged with violating New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law
section 1111-c, because the operator of the vehicle stood, parked or entered a bus lane during the restricted hours and did not make
an immediate right hand turn. Claim that the violation occurred "just shy of 7:00 p.m." when the regulation expired, is not a valid defense to the violation charged. The record is reviewed and considered. Guilty.

 >:( >:( >:(
I hate this city!!
Isn't there a 5 minute grace period?
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #371 on: February 16, 2017, 09:31:10 AM »
Isn't there a 5 minute grace period?
Apparently only for alternative side tickets

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #372 on: February 16, 2017, 09:32:55 AM »
Isn't there a 5 minute grace period?
Apparently only for alternative side tickets
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #373 on: April 09, 2017, 08:08:48 PM »
I got an ASP ticket that says "opposite such and such address."  Does that refer to the address on the other side or same side of the street? 

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #374 on: April 09, 2017, 08:45:38 PM »
I got an ASP ticket that says "opposite such and such address."  Does that refer to the address on the other side or same side of the street?
Other side

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #375 on: May 02, 2017, 11:16:53 PM »
Watched a traffic police strike three double-parked cars (on two different blocks) by 11:02. Vicious!

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #376 on: May 03, 2017, 01:04:13 AM »
Watched a traffic police strike three double-parked cars (on two different blocks) by 11:02. Vicious!
vicious is not the word, how can one take such a job? Knowing that I'm getting up each day to cause 100 people's lives miserable today. And then go home to his family and relax and back to bed to get strength to continue his job to ruin another X amount of people's day.
 Yes it's a job,but a job which every guy is ready to shoot and kill them.
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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #377 on: May 03, 2017, 01:07:33 AM »
vicious is not the word, how can one take such a job? Knowing that I'm getting up each day to cause 100 people's lives miserable today. And then go home to his family and relax and back to bed to get strength to continue his job to ruin another X amount of people's day.
 Yes it's a job,but a job which every guy is ready to shoot and kill them.
Look at those who have this job. Do they look like people who would otherwise qualify for anything else? You rarely see cops giving such tickets. I seriously view the street cleaners (Simcha Felder's Project Sweep etc.) as more respectable human beings.

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #378 on: June 24, 2017, 11:41:16 PM »
Anyone have any good excuses to get out of a double parking ticket of a non-commercial vehicle ? It was double parked on a school block in Brooklyn because they was alternate side parking in effect, and everyone double parks at those hours anyway.

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Re: How to beat Alternate Side/street cleaning ticket in NY?
« Reply #379 on: June 24, 2017, 11:54:05 PM »
Anyone have any good excuses to get out of a double parking ticket of a non-commercial vehicle ? It was double parked on a school block in Brooklyn because they was alternate side parking in effect, and everyone double parks at those hours anyway.
if you were dropping your small kids off in the school, and now you could not park in front of the school for 2 min to take my kid up because of asp and of course didn't want to get in the way of the sweeping trucks so doubled parked for a second to run up to my son's class and come right back to a nice big present for taking my kid safely into class.
 I think such an excuse would be dismissed but don't know all the details by you.
 Good luck.
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