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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #160 on: December 29, 2011, 11:32:59 AM »
Is it just me or did Dan put this place on the map

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #161 on: December 29, 2011, 11:34:46 AM »
Is it just me or did Dan put this place on the map

   I've met quite a few people who've traveled the world who have told me their favorite place was Kauai.
                                Although maybe Dan put it on the "frum" map.
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« Reply #162 on: December 29, 2011, 11:35:13 AM »
Is it just me or did Dan put this place on the map
I'll probably regret it the next time I go and it's overrun by frummies :P
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #163 on: December 29, 2011, 11:36:10 AM »
I'll probably regret it the next time I go and it's overrun by frummies :P

Lol-  I have never been yet but I keep imagining that exact scenario when I do finally get there.
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« Reply #164 on: December 29, 2011, 11:40:21 AM »
I'll probably regret it the next time I go and it's overrun by frummies :P
I agree. That's why I think it's wise for people to post they're dates so there's little overlapping.

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« Reply #165 on: December 29, 2011, 02:11:46 PM »
Real or status matched?

It officially matters?
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« Reply #166 on: December 29, 2011, 03:04:30 PM »
Officially no but hotels know how many times youve stayed at their hotel and other hyatt hotels, how many points you have, and when youre asking for an exception Im sure they check that out along with other internal rankings (viewable by peaking at the housekeeping cart)
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« Reply #167 on: December 29, 2011, 04:06:14 PM »
(viewable by peaking at the housekeeping cart)

You mean to say they share privileged information about you with their cleaning staff which they wouldn't share with you if you asked? This is the same for all the big hotel chains, or specific to Hyatt?
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« Reply #168 on: December 29, 2011, 04:39:37 PM »
You mean to say they share privileged information about you with their cleaning staff which they wouldn't share with you if you asked? This is the same for all the big hotel chains, or specific to Hyatt?
Yup, although the only place I happened to see it was at PH Paris.
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« Reply #169 on: December 29, 2011, 04:46:01 PM »
Yup, although the only place I happened to see it was at PH Paris.
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« Reply #170 on: December 30, 2011, 04:47:29 AM »
I am actually checking in to the Hyatt tomorrow...I  hope that there is no problem with shabbat for the rooms like automatic ac shutting when opening balcony

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« Reply #171 on: December 30, 2011, 08:04:36 AM »
I am actually checking in to the Hyatt tomorrow...I  hope that there is no problem with shabbat for the rooms like automatic ac shutting when opening balcony

opening the door does trigger the AC to shut down. But if you get a suite there are two separate doors to the balcony from the bedroom and living room with individual AC units. We turned off the AC in the living room and only used the living room door to get to the balcony.

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« Reply #172 on: December 30, 2011, 12:12:46 PM »
I am actually checking in to the Hyatt tomorrow...I  hope that there is no problem with shabbat for the rooms like automatic ac shutting when opening balcony
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:

-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"

You still can't open/close the balcony, but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #173 on: December 30, 2011, 01:40:54 PM »
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:

-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"

You still can't open/close the balcony, but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.
If you disable the sensor by entering this code, why can't you open and close the balcony on shabbos?

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« Reply #174 on: December 30, 2011, 01:46:44 PM »
If you disable the sensor by entering this code, why can't you open and close the balcony on shabbos?
It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.
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« Reply #175 on: December 30, 2011, 01:49:28 PM »
It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.

I think the problem is that the sensor is still 'sensing', regardless of whether that's displayed on the control/thermostat.
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« Reply #176 on: December 30, 2011, 01:53:25 PM »
I think the problem is that the sensor is still 'sensing', regardless of whether that's displayed on the control/thermostat.
Sensing what? There's no motion sensor, it can just tell (and displays) when the door is open or closed.
This way you can leave the door open the whole shabbos and still have AC.

As long as it's open more than an inch it will still display that the balcony is open.
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« Reply #177 on: December 30, 2011, 02:00:37 PM »
Sensing what? There's no motion sensor, it can just tell (and displays) when the door is open or closed.
This way you can leave the door open the whole shabbos and still have AC.

As long as it's open more than an inch it will still display that the balcony is open.

How can it tell if there isn't a sensor??

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« Reply #178 on: December 30, 2011, 02:03:03 PM »
You can put some tape over the door contact so that way the system will think the door is always open.

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« Reply #179 on: December 30, 2011, 02:12:17 PM »
How can it tell if there isn't a sensor??
Again, sensing what?  There is a contact that can tell if the door is open (even just an inch) or if it's closed.  This isn't an alarm or motion sensor system that is common in other countries for the power in the room to go off if there's no motion, the point is just to turn off the AC when the door is open.
The AC displays (in HI it says "Lanai") when the door is open.  In VIP mode it still lets the AC run and as long as the dorr is at least an inch open you won't affect anything.

You can put some tape over the door contact so that way the system will think the door is always open.
I haven't had success, but if you do please post pictures.
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