Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions

[ExGingi]

Is this the first ever ANR-TLV service?

Given that ANR is a very old airport, you'd probably need to check with Antwerp old timers.

Given the issues with the airport, it seems like the E195 is able to serve in a way previously not possible (combination of noise, distance, runway length etc.)

One thing is certain: the route schedule was determined with the target market in mind. I would guess it will be successful (and will have the highest consistent percentage of שומרי שבת of any regularly scheduled commercial route).

[Dan]

(and will have the highest consistent percentage of שומרי שבת of any regularly scheduled commercial route).

You must not fly CLE-EWR very often

[ExGingi]

You must not fly CLE-EWR very often

True. Haven't ever flown that route (and unlikely to do so in the future. Is there any compelling reason to fly to CLE?).

I am guessing that my statement will still hold true. But if the competition is close it could be modified to add the word "international" or "longest" or simply "2x weekly" 

[Proisrael]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+has+officially+been+admitted+into+the+US+Visa+Waiver+Program&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Lets take guesses how many new routes open up due to this...

[chff]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+has+officially+been+admitted+into+the+US+Visa+Waiver+Program&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Lets take guesses how many new routes open up due to this...

I expect airfare to increase, and maybe even advance purchase requirements/light fares exTLV etc

[tavster]

We are in  Effective Nov 30
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-760655

@Dan

[ExGingi]

We are in  Effective Nov 30
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-760655

@Dan

So when do we mourn this, on the day of the announcement or the effective day? 

[tavster]

So when do we mourn this, on the day of the announcement or the effective day? 

Both

[tavster]

Can one have two ESTAs, on two different passports? Say EU and Israeli citizenships

[mevinyavin]

Chaim vChessed says the embassy told them many of those extra workers (who used to do visas) will be assigned for citizen services.
https://chaimvchessed.com/updates/israel-to-enter-vwf-will-relief-come-for-americans-in-israel-too/

[tavster]

I expect airfare to increase, and maybe even advance purchase requirements/light fares exTLV etc

ElAl is already all over this 

https://www.elal.com/heb/useful-info/passport-visa/usa-esta?fbclid=iwar1fp--bweyclj8mtcgu7dz4ce4mqslt2sap-w0ps5ogaj0g_xbrc2vrqwc

[yochai]

ElAl is already all over this 

https://www.elal.com/heb/useful-info/passport-visa/usa-esta?fbclid=iwar1fp--bweyclj8mtcgu7dz4ce4mqslt2sap-w0ps5ogaj0g_xbrc2vrqwc

From the FAQ:

[ExGingi]

From the FAQ:

This is the kind of question that I would think only Israelis would think of.

[tavster]

LY adding a 6th daily flight to NY, from June

https://twitter.com/gotomichal/status/1707296559774503327?t=qOp5suka7hj4JECJRmE_8w&s=19

[SHL]

LY adding a 6th daily flight to NY, from June

https://twitter.com/gotomichal/status/1707296559774503327?t=qOp5suka7hj4JECJRmE_8w&s=19

JFK or EWR?

[tavster]

JFK or EWR?

JFK

IINM the TLV JFK takes off at 7:30am, lands at 12:20p, the JFK TLV takes of at 2:30p, lands at 8am

[tavster]

El Al said a survey it commissioned of Israeli adults who plan to travel abroad found that just 30% of them hold visas to enter the United States, while 40% of those considering flying to the US said the need for a visa was one of the main barriers to flying there.

If Israelis may enter without a visa, the willingness to fly to the US would rise by 20%, according to the poll. It also showed that 65% of respondents said New York was the most sought-after US destination, followed by Los Angeles at 13%.


https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-760804

[Dan]

JFK

IINM the TLV JFK takes off at 7:30am, lands at 12:20p, the JFK TLV takes of at 2:30p, lands at 8am

Where did the JFK slot come from?

[tavster]

Where did the JFK slot come from?

Spare capacity perhaps?

[SHL]

Spare capacity perhaps?

From who?
Slots are use or Lose (minimum of 80% of the time operation)
We're they leasing to someone else?
Is there a way to see if someone else stopped a route
Are they using a DL slot (squatting for delta) under the new MOU?